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Assembly# 25804 what color..?

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  1. Drock28

    Drock28 Formula 3

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    hi.. this is the assembly# for 1997 355 Berlinetta..

    is there a way to confirm what the original color for this assembly was..?
     
  2. Dave rocks

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    You can contact a dealer and ask them to pull the build of the car by VIN
     
  3. Drock28

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    hi.. I also have the VIN.. I thought there was a registry/database here, with this info.?
     
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    #5 Drock28, Sep 14, 2014
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    ok thanks..

    the reason im asking is because.. im looking at a 1997 Giallow (yellow) 355..

    the owner sent me a pic showing a rock chip on the hood vent..I attached it here..

    as you can see there is red underneath..

    would someone know if Ferrari used a red primer layer underneath.. or could this be indication that the car was repainted...?
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    Ask him for a photo of the paint code under the engine bonnet. Someone could have replaced the sticker if painted and maybe they did not.

    A car fax may list color, not sure. Ask if he has the window sticker or any old records.
     
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    #7 johnk..., Sep 14, 2014
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    here is the link to the 355 registry. If the car in is there the color will probably be listed. Also, these cars typically had red primer.

    Oops, forgot the link: http://www.ferrari355registry.com/
     
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    ok thanks. someone else also told me he thinks ferrari used a red primer.

    I do have a picture of the sticker under the engine bonnet
    and it shows Giallo Modena. but that sticker could have easily been put there.

    I will check with FNA. to be certain.

    but two people have now indicated that red primer is likely what it is.
     
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    No Dave. This is the link to the real registry, which I forgot to include initially. Not FChat.

    Ferrari 355 Registry - Home Page
     
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    John, that one is run by Robbie from Sticky no more and I believe it's linked in the thread of fchat reg. ;)
     
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    nice it worked. I checked that registry and it shows as Giallo Modena.

    so that red layer underneath must be a primer.
     
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    #13 driveitdaily, Sep 14, 2014
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    I dont even think my red car has ted primer under the paint, i think it is more likely that hood has been replaced with a used part from a red car and then painted yellow, the millage of the paint around that chip looks awful thick. We do paintwork at our shop and it would be a big no no to paint yellow over red primer and acheive an acceptable color match. In fact a customers red 355 had a scratch on the left rear fender , thru to the primer , and the primer was light, almost white
    I think its more likely they just scuffed the red hood and base coated the yellow right over the red.
    Our Color match system tells us what color tint primer to use to get a correct match and i have never seen it specify red under yellow , it would always specify light grey under yellow
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    Glad to hear but please understand that registry is created by owner data and it could only be as accurate as the information the owner had at the time.

    Every chip on my car shows white below.
     
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    In fact if you look close at that chip , it looks like a white first layer , a red second layer and a yellow third layer. I would say that is not the original hood , but possibly just not the original vent , something has been replaced
    Carfax ? Accident damage? Carfax doesnt get every incident , but its a start

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    ok thanks. good to know.

    I guess the only way to be 100% certain is to check FNA.
     
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    Perhaps, but I'm not about to go through 40 odd pages of posts to find it. :(
     
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    Fna will havd no idea if the car was in an accident and used parts were used to fix it


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    Correct. however, as I stated prior, a dealer can pull the original build of the car (I have mine) see attached.
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    F335 primer color is pretty easy to check if the front bumper has not been repainted. Just get on your knees and look at the skid plates. Every one I looked at the shoed primer was red, regardless of the color of the car. On some it looked like another base coat under the red that was light gray. So I'm guessing a gray build coat followed by a red sealer and then the color.
     
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    Mine is white, John - ask me how I know :(

    (Skid plate - skid)
     
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    Ferrari primer --- What ever was in the gun? :)
     
  23. Drock28

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    these are all good points.
    indeed could be chance just that house vent was replaced.
    but now there are multiple confirmations of red primer/sealer coat.

    good tip to check under front bumper lip.

    by the way Carfax and Carproof are clean.
     
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    I have seen most bumpers with an orange color primer, but only the bumpers for some reason , possibly the paint process for fiberglass parts , but ive never seen it on body panels, the hood vents , being plastic may also get the same process as bumpers , but that red under the chip looks alot like rosso corsa, the bumper underlying color is orange


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  25. joshtownsend

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    Its more likely you are seeing the gel coat from he fiberglass then the primer.. its always red..
     

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