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  1. Martin308GTB

    Martin308GTB F1 Rookie

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    Is this discussion still going on ?

    Best Regards from Germany
    Martin. ( Carbed 308 GTB #34379 ! )
     
  2. RJR89

    RJR89 Formula Junior

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    You should contact Ferrari. Is anyone really surprised they have the wrong information. Frankly, this should be a bigger "story" to perhaps wake them up.
     
  3. Martin308GTB

    Martin308GTB F1 Rookie

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    Why should I contact Ferrari once more ? I have already done this 18 years ago and they wrote me, what one can read on The Ferrari 308 GTB Register
    Therefore they have the correct information.

    But the he 34349-thing - which probably was simply a typo in the past - seems to be impossible to eliminate.


    Best Regards from Germany

    Martin
     
  4. nerofer

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    Martin,

    I guess this is why we need from time to time to repeat the same things over and over again...and to say that 34349 is NOT the last one, each and everytime we see this written.

    As long as yours is documented by written proof by the factory as among the last five ones, I guess that in fact, it may even make your car more interesting...

    One must always remain careful when reading anything about production numbers from Ferrari in the seventies/eighties, and always do some cross-examination.

    Rgds
     
  5. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    Or to believe anything about any production number or VIN or anything out of Maranello.

    The number of 99999 vins, production of Enzos, production of FXX's, I could go on and on.

    There are mistakes, there is bad record keeping and then there are outright lies.
     
  6. Albert-LP

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  7. Martin308GTB

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    #107 Martin308GTB, Nov 9, 2014
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    Hello Alberto,

    congratulations. Though not being the very last dry sump GTB, according to the informations I got from Ferrari concerning my inquiry about my 34379, there was just one single car after yours ( 34503 ). So you have the last but one.

    the last five cars were: 34377, 34379, 34389, 34465, 34503.

    Let's see a picture of your car.

    Best Regards from Germany

    Martin
     
  8. Albert-LP

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    Thanks, Martin!

    I would like to see a picture of the steering wheel of your car (and know if it has a 360 mm diameter), as mine has a very good looking vintage Nardi steering wheel, but it's not the OEM steering wheel.

    Thank you very much

    ciao
     
  9. Martin308GTB

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    #109 Martin308GTB, Nov 9, 2014
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    Hello Alberto,

    this is my steering wheel. Diameter is 360 mm. Also not that OEM wheel one can see on old pictures. Maybe OEM for the latest cars ?
    ( Would love to see a picture of your whole car )

    Best Regards
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  10. Albert-LP

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    #110 Albert-LP, Nov 9, 2014
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    Thank you very much, Martin.

    I have exactly the same Nardi 360 mm steering wheel, with the E. Nardi signature on the right arm: maybe they were factory installed on late cars?

    ciao
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  11. fredenzo123

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    I think it's normal not to have sn number plate because this number is obviously a fake.
    ZFFUA13A0F0030449 should correspond to a '85 (F) 308 GTS QV (13) for America (AU) and (B), but the final number can not be a QV (41701-59265). The VIN check is also negative.

    The picture corresponds to a 308 GTS, the rear visibly (baddly) changed is neither a European (single exhaust) or American (2x2 exhaust with cooling louvres).

    The new owner has a questionable history Ferrari ...

    Fred.
     
  12. TripleBlack

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    If I may, the Nardi steering wheel in aluminum appeared on carbureted cars during the year of 1980, at the same Ferrari SpA also equipped the car with TRX wheels.
    This steering wheel has the new horn button like yours (which continue until 328 where a horn logo appeared on the top).

    Later, the Nardi steering wheel will be delivered in black aluminum with injection' car to distinguish the model.

    You have both the original wheel.

    One question, is it engraved with the date of manufacture on the back on one of the branch ?

    Both of your cars are so nice. It is very exiting to see one of the last...
     
  13. Albert-LP

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    Thanks, Jephma, it matches: my car had the TRX wheels. I had them at the paint shop, those installed are 16". Classiche aready told me my car had the TRX wheels, so everything is correct. I saw some "i" cars with that wheel but dark/black (i do not remember exactly the color, but it wasn't silver at all) and without the signature in Italics.

    I will give a look on the back of the wheel, as soon as possible.

    Thank you very much.

    ciao
     
  14. Martin308GTB

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    Mine is engraved on the back.
    'Made in Italy' on the left, and production date '6-80' on the right.

    Best Regards from Germany

    Martin
     
  15. Albert-LP

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    It matches, that's the OEM one: no more doubt about it.

    Congrats, Martin!

    ciao
     
  16. stradman

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    Completely agree. I wouldn't accept anyone's word that theirs is the last one, unless it comes with a certified and stamped confirmation letter from Ferrari which I don't believe I have ever seen.
    Furthermore you have to understand there are many different "last ones" There is the last red one, the last blue one, the last black one......... ; )
     
  17. Albert-LP

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    That's true, but a carbed car with chassis no. 34465 registered on January 8, 1981, maybe it's not the last GTB dry sump produced, but is quite close, isn't it? :)

    ciao
     
  18. Martin308GTB

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    #118 Martin308GTB, Nov 10, 2014
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    I have such a letter. And I showed it so often during the last 18 years without any effect, except waking the doubters, like once again today. Therefore I don't plan to do this over and over again.

    Best Regards from Germany

    Martin
     
  19. Albert-LP

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    Thank you very much, Stradman: you remebered me that i have not only the last (or the one before last) dry sump GTB ever produced, but also i have...


    ...the last "Blu sera"
    ...the last registered in Italy
    ...the last registered in Milano
    ...the last with special Nardi signed steering wheel
    ...the last with TRX wheels
    ...the last owned by me

    It cannot worth less than a million pounds! :D

    ciao
     
  20. st@ven

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    i do not see any real oddities actually. The number is matching with its age, the rear exhaust is a 4 barral one wich was oem in the US and the F in the vin certainly does not indice a 308 gts QV ( otherwise my 328 should have been a 308 as well:):)) As with more cars the owner probably changed the appearance of the rear.
     
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    #121 st@ven, Nov 10, 2014
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    I actually think my QV is even more exclusive. Sold new in France, shipped to the US, shipped to Japan and than back to Europe. Man this car travelled more than it drove!!
    So take that for comparison: priceless! ( And i'm pretty sure it's the only one 308 QV delivered in November by Pozzi ever performed that:):):):):))
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  22. Albert-LP

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    A car like your one cannot cost less than TWO million pounds... :)

    Ciao
     
  23. TripleBlack

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    Your car should have the same TRX wheel as the injection 2v (full silver). It changed after in the 1983 with the QV, the TRX wheel are frosted polished in the 5 stars branches.
     
  24. stradman

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    [QUOTE

    It cannot worth less than a million pounds! :D

    ciao[/QUOTE]

    At least!!
     
  25. Motoman

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    Hello,

    Reading through old post and found this thread. I am trying to get some info on my 1980 Carbed 308. Its was built march 1980, vin decodes as a gtsi, but is carbed. It has a 17 digit vin. The serial number falls within what I have read to be carbed, but has gts i badges, and gts i model number.

    From reading this thread, it sounds like they did some oddball things when during the overlap time in 80 when they were building carbed and Injected models.

    Another odd thing, is that the vin plate on the column never had the 9th digit, and the last 5 digits. I have attached a photo. Image Unavailable, Please Login
     

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