F1 set for three-car teams

Mercedes try to fix sound and they give up.
They should come back to V8. This is only solution.

 

I agree with TifosiUSA, except leave the DRS - in fact add DRS like devices that can be used anywhere (anotherwords - do not have it tied to any other car - just another variable that Good drivers can use to increase speed)
Add more innovation - less rules.
Also, the third cars would effect the drivers championship, but not the constructors - so that argument goes out the window.
And as far as Alonso is concerned - if they changed the rules tomorrow for 3rd cars - everyteam out there would be in a bidding war to get him including Ferrari.
Now you might want to make a rule that third cars have to go to local drivers - that would be switch (like in the old days) - but I think that might be too hard to pull off.

 

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Cheaper ticket prices
Get a social media presence
More money to the teams

The three that I have copied above are outside the regs.

 

perhaps we can bring the Olympics into this and do relay races, drives passing batons after a sprint every 10 laps.

Or bring in interference of Shriner clown cars

F1 has lost a lot

 

The sound of some turbo cars is quite fruity, but in F1, they are limited to 1 turbo only, and they also use it for energy recovery. The revs limit don't help either.

FOM doesn't give enough money back to the teams, in general, and does it according to a sliding scale that favours the top ones (that are already rich) at the expense of the poorer ones that are struggling to attract sponsors. But in fact, to have a competition, you need to have a variety of teams.

If Ecclestone didn't extract exorbitant fees from race organisers, they wouldn't have to put ticket price so high. At present, it's their only source of income.

Most of the solutions to the current problems will come from a rethink of the financing of F1, the role of FOM/Ecclestone, and who gets the money from the TV rights.

Mosley and the FIA has given Ecclestone and his cronnies the F1 commercial rights, and that has to be revised.

 

Yeah Bernie needs to stop wringing as much cash as possible out of F1 as has been done for years. That would solve almost all of the problems but it's a utopian never-gonna-happen dream.

As far as sound, the turbos are not to blame, it's the KERS heat-recovery system.

 

I could care less that there's only one team on the podium. I remember the early 90s of CART quite fondly with the Penske Marlboro cars bringing in a number of 1-2-3 victories. The racing was excellent.

Honestly I am interested in the drivers more than the teams. As it is, all of the teams save Ferrari are pretty much British, and it's mostly the same talent that shuffles among the teams season after season.

Most of why the teammate battles are so intriguing is that both guys have the same car so it's purely a test of driver skill and strategy. Seeing more guys competing neck and neck is what I want to see, and with three car teams, even in a season where one team dominates, we'd still get to see at least three guys slug it out. It's a tragedy that Fernando has had to suffer in a sub-par car for season after season while the prime years of his career tick by. More spots on teams means more drivers can be in fast cars.

 

My opinion as well.

 

Assumed that they get the very same support within the team and that none of them is favoured, either officially by team order or under the hand by preference of the ones in charge...This will rarely ever happen and so the "purely a test of driver skill" might be an illusion.

 

If team were allowed to have drivers with different sponsorship liveries, like in CART and maybe IRL, I don't think there will be team orders.

I cannot see sponsor X allowing his driver to let pass another team car sponsored by Y, do you?

In this case, each driver would have his own crew, and not take orders from another manager.

 

Hummmm....
Can you imagine if all 20 cars where Mercedes? Now that would be a race!

 

But this would make them rather a "single-car team" where several teams are owned by the same person...I think that is far away from what we can expect if the three-car teams will show up in F1.

 

It would make it easier for teams to obtain sponsorship, if they could propose to support one car only.

Equally, when a driver has personal sponsorship (like Maldonado, for example), why should that sponsor partly finance another car in the team?

Maldonado's sponsor is rumored to bring $20millions to Lotus, but in fact $10m are used to support Grosjean!

I just can't see why the system in place in CART or IRL is not allowed in F1.

 

It is not the question whether this is allowed or not but I doubt that teams like Ferrari would give away that much control...The sponsors are rather partners of Ferrari than of the single drivers. So your intended system might work for the smaller teams as this would give them more possibilities but not for the bigger ones (Ferrari, Mercedes, Red Bull).

 

At Indy, the 33 cars are all Dallara.

Do you think they don't have a race?

Same in GP2, the whole field are Dallara.

Still no race ?

 

At least it would give the opportunity for teams to obtain sponsorship in a more creative way.

If Ferrari don't need that system, it's up to them.

Red Bull is its own main sponsor as far as I know, probably like Mercedes.

This rule imposed by Bernie that all cars from the same team must have the same sponsor is just wrong, in my view.

 

No Formula 1...If I want to see 20 cars of the same marque then I watch Formula Renault or Porsche Super Cup.

 

You please yourself !

 

Running of the Bulls.

But seriously with 3 cars in the main team why bother with the Toro Rosso who will now be the backmarker. ?
Yet another team to bite the dust ?

 

That's because the turbo cars of the 80's were twin turbo, dual exhaust.
Today's cars are single turbo, single exhaust, with all that extra ERS stuff.

 

WTF??? Is it my limited English or did you actually say what I think?

 

Its really distressing that the sport - activity I have loved since as early as i can remember is being crushed from its own weight.

I love Ferrari dearly but they need to say stop, or we will go racing elsewhere - like Indy or Lemans unless F1 makes it more open and less restrictive. the only way anyone will do anything is if Ferrari takes a stand - which sadly they will not do.

While Mercedes is at the top, I dont think many will tune in to see Mercedes racing with out any Ferrari's in the field.... that is the weight of Ferrari.

Ferrari would be VERY welcomed in Indy and LeMans - Tudor racing at the top class.....

 

Alonso, Raikonnen, Vettel. Is this what Fred meant by obvious?

 

You please yourself means it's up to you.

If you compare Grand Prix with club racing, it's up to you.
Personally, I. Watch gps for to see the cream of the drivers, not to watch the cars specifically.
GP cars are almost all alike anyway, apart from the livery.