Reliable source information on Scuderia & 16M production numbers for U.S.

Interesting. Did not know that!

 

I have an OEM Scud front bumper, it's definitely heavy.

 

Somewhat similar, but with one important caveat: we don't know the total production figure of the 430 Scuderia, and we know Ferrari made more than the proposed 499 units of the 16M. With the 575M, we know Ferrari made around 2,200 - and of that, I only have 1,282 confirmed. Of those 1,282, I have 215 2002 USA models, 178 2003 USA models, and 144 2004 USA models. It's a safe bet to add 15-30 percent to each of those model year numbers for the complete run for the US. But there's no way for me to know if the percentages should be added evenly, or more to one year than the others, etc.

Can you really put a dollar figure on the joy derived from all those miles?

 

Carbon- 2064 575Ms.

 

Nope. So many amazing experiences and people along the way.

 

I was interested in the 575 Superamerica figures as a comparison against the 16M. In recent years Ferrari have produced 2 limited production convertibles and I thought the known figures for one might help throw some light on the other.

I've now sourced the figures:
575 Superamerica
Total - 559 (Actual)
US - 214
UK - 63 (Actual)

16M
Total - 499 (Limited)
US - 224
UK - 53 (Actual)

Interesting comparison figures!

As some of you may know I am creating a 16M register and have been helped by a number of VIN collectors around the World (thank you Carbon & many others) and indeed the Ferrari factory. Currently there are 418 cars in the database and counting.
Ferrari have also indicated a production total for the 16M which I cannot reveal (for one obvious reason) but which 16M owners will I think find not too concerning.

 

I already have 216 US Superamericas in my database, and I only have 441 total - so when I have the full amount, what will be the true total of US cars? It's good to have a factory contact, but if they like their job and are loyal to the company, what makes you think they'd give you actual figures that aberrate from what has been officially published?

 

Russell- Your SA figures match mine, except I did not have a US number. Where did you get that? 6 of the UK SAs were three pedals.

 

It is interesting that of the 441 SA's you have 216 are US, not far off 50%.
The total of 559 is a factory number.

 

Taz, I should of bracketed the figure with the source which was a Sheehan report. Seems like this US number might be incorrect from Carbon's figures. Correct about the 6 UK SA's with 3 pedals.

 

Russell- All of Sheehan's numbers should be taken with a large grain of salt. Especially since many are copied from Cavallino and those are not too accurate, either. Especially so on late model Ferraris.

 

I imagine the total number of US Superamericas is still relatively 30% of total production - that's because I also believe Ferrari made more than 559. I have some catching up to on RHD manuals though - I only have two in my database. Speaking of RHD Superamericas, can you (or anyone else) confirm that 144840 is RHD and ex-Rod Stewart?

For the record, I only have 52 RHD SAs in my database so far - 45 UK, and seven in Australia.

Terry is right on the money. Unlike others, I have nothing to lose or gain by stating my findings. It's not a career, I don't get paid - in fact, I spend a lot of money; mine is an expensive hobby.

 

What I don't understand is the secrecy. What is the big deal for Cavallino (If they know) to release the production numbers on the scuds and 16Ms? What is the big deal for Ferrari to release those numbers?

 

Cavallino doesn't know, nor do they put in the time to research the actual, accurate findings of others - since they don't really care about contemporary cars, they publish whatever is popular. Ferrari doesn't want actual numbers released because they're no longer selling just cars - they're selling a brand, a lifestyle, and most importantly, exclusivity.

If I try to sell you an Aperta based on the car's performance merits, and you say, "No thanks," I might then try to sell you an Aperta based on exclusivity - "Hey! You could be just one of 80 people in the world to own a car like this!" If you buy it, and then find out Ferrari actually made twice as many as they said they would, and you bought it based on exclusivity, you might be pissed.

 

Did you finish the registry list of 16m's