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  1. Valerian

    Valerian Formula Junior

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    Tombazis is the next to be sacked from Ferrari due to the poor first wind tunnel data about 2015 car.

    https://twitter.com/LorenzoDL83/status/536877617727954944

    It'll be interesting to see what can Scuderia come up with for 2016. I don't have any illusions that next year will be turnover.
     
  2. DF1

    DF1 Three Time F1 World Champ

    +1 Im not expecting any surprises up front. Right now it might be Mercedes and Mclaren as 1 and 2 maybe Williams unless Red Bull find some pace. Ferrari will not appear to be so strong. I hope to be surprised of course.
     
  3. tifosi12

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    About time. Tombazi should have been sacked years ago
     
  4. DF1

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  5. Tifoso1

    Tifoso1 F1 Rookie

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    What about Zeartul and his team of the Dark Templars ?
     
  6. Crawler

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    Somebody please explain what a Big Tobacco marketing guy is supposed to know about running an F1 team. On its face, this seems completely bizarre.
     
  7. classic308

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    Andreas you and I have been sayong this for years, maybe Fry goes with him too.....
     
  8. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ
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    He was forced on Luca by Fiat.

    I suspect that's when Luca knew his days were numbered.
     
  9. classic308

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    About the same as a guy who had only road car experience. That said, the key to effective leadership is to surround yourself with excellent people. I'm sure he has access to those people, certainly more than MM did. Ferrari need a great tech staff, everything else is secondary. Let us wait and see.

    Italy is stable in its instability.....
     
  10. tifosi12

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    While I'm happy about Tombazi I'm concerned about how Ferrari goes about its engineering department: they brought out the big axe

    I'm more for evolution than revolution and won't expect anything from them next year. Vettel really bought a lemon of a car
     
  11. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Before we jump down his throat it might be good to know something about him besides who he worked for.
     
  12. markmoon

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    I think the rumor about Mattiacci is true based upon comments made to me recently by 2 individuals very close to the situation, one in Italy and another here in the U.S. Seems he was seen as too close to LDM and Marchionne is wanting a clean slate. I share the many concerns about the direction Marchionne is taking, but for what it's worth, the gentleman I know in Italy has very close ties for many years to the F1 team. He describes Marchionne as a " genius". We can only hope.
     
  13. spirot

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    Marlboro has been in synch with Ferrari for years. I'm guessing that getting Vettle on board was part Marlboro and Marchionne. The team "principal " or what ever - Manager - is about managing the team - you dont have to be an engineer or strategist, but you have to be able to motivate people and get them to work together - Ala Jean Todt.

    so Arivabene has been around the F-1 club for a LONG time - knows all the players and back storys, and can sort the crap from reality - and Ferrari want Marlboro money.
    its not the first time Marlboro have played major roles in F1- teams --- They brougth in Ron Dennis, Niki Lauda to BRM, Got Senna to McLaren and kept Honda in the fold for a long time in the 80's - that was mostly John Hogan...
     
  14. VIZSLA

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    Can you give us a better idea of whom your sources are?
     
  15. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ
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    There's a good piece on Hogie in the current Motorsport.
     
  16. greyboxer

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    The simplest answer comes from his new boss

    "We decided to appoint Maurizio Arrivabene because, at this historic moment in time for the Scuderia and for Formula 1, we need a person with a thorough understanding not just of Ferrari but also of the governance mechanisms and requirements of the sport," said Marchionne.

    "Maurizio has a unique wealth of knowledge: he has been extremely close to the Scuderia for years and, as a member of the F1 Commission, is also keenly aware of the challenges we are facing. He has been a constant source of innovative ideas focused on revitalisation of Formula 1."
     
  17. markmoon

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    One is involved with a major sanctioning body in sports car racing here in the U.S. I can't really say more about the Italian except to say he has helped the F1 team in legal matters for many years. Truly very close to the actors in this saga.
     
  18. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Without more specifics, and I understand your confidentiality, its impossible to know their access or agendas.
     
  19. markmoon

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    Agreed. We'll see in time.
     
  20. VIZSLA

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    It's why we watch.
    ;)
     
  21. ferkan

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    Its not necessary to have top technical guy as TP in F1, but a guy who has knowledge of inner workings in F1 and managerial experience to assemble and put group of talented engineers and technicians to work towards being competitive. From that standpoint, he could do well. But, Merc is huge company which has more engineers in Brixworth doing engine work then entire Ferrari has on F1 project. I just don't see us being competitive in next few years.

    Our engine, which was historically our strong suit, is now inadequate to put it lightly and absolute junk if we are honest with ourselves. Its too heavy, under-powered and to thirsty to EVER compete for top spot with new regulations.

    I think this is where Maurizio Arrivabene comes into place. His ties with Bernie and him being long time in F1 sponsorship side could help us with politics in 2016 when Renault and us drop a tantrum and we unfreeze engine rules (remember in 2016 its majority who need to agree on matter, in 2015 everyone has and Merc doesn't intend to). Merc is obviously going to sweep everything up next year too and thats why they don't want to compromise on tokens with other two engine manufacturers. Can't really blame them, they've done fantastic job.

    All in all, very gloomy future lies ahead. Merc is in F1 business for the same reason Honda is, to trickle down hybrid tech. They can have as many engineers on the project as they want, while Ferrari is too small to do so. We have seen what happened with Renault PU once they let many engineers go and scaled down their entire Sport project. Only thing that can help us is FIAT, and I expect Marchionne to pull some weight on that front. If he doesn't, well...we are in deep ****. At least Tombazis is out for good...

    For now, I'm very pessimistic.

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  22. freshmeat

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    good riddance.
     
  23. racerx3317

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    This is not good. Ferrari is in big trouble. They could have built on the good things that they had and fixed what was wrong. Instead they changed pretty much everything. Mattiaci getting sacked is no great loss, he didn't seem to know jack about F1 anyway. Dark days ahead.
     
  24. Sig. Roma

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    While not having read any of the earlier threads in previous pages, one of my Italian friends noted that RAI reported Mercedes having advised their customers that next year's power plant will have an additional 60 bhp. That means Ferrari and Renault have to come up with a good 120 - 140 bhp to be competitive. I expect some major engine changes.
     
  25. ferkan

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    There is a limit of how much engines can be changed. Next year 95% of engine PARTS can he changed, but not in the same year so you have to be pretty clear on what you want to change in order to get more performance. If there needs to be done more changes they you have tokens than its game over, especially if (and they will) Merc has even better engine next year.

    Thats why Ferrari and Renault will vote for engine unfreeze comes 2016, they know there is no other way out of this situation.
     

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