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New Listing for an F355 Berlinetta

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  1. Robb

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    For those having difficulty finding an F355 berlinetta, here is a link of one in red / tan now on the market.

    No affiliation with the car. Have a look.

    Ferrari 355 | eBay

    Robb
     
  2. Eric C

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    Prices are on the rise..
     
  3. Eric C

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    Cavalino Magazine states the value is $75,000 and rising. This is an exciting investment you can drive and enjoy!
     
  4. 355dreamer

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    Nice car, but it suffers the mid year blues..

    No 95 OBD1 benefits, no late 98+ improvements.
     
  5. GerryD

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    The car in the add would have been considered a high price 6 months ago and in 2 years that 69,900 is going to look insanely low.
     
  6. Robb

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    I just hope those that are "seriously" looking for a car will check it out and report good vs bad.

    Robb
     
  7. INTMD8

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    "Paint is immaculate as is the interior"

    Well, I suppose it could be clean but that dash leather is toast.

    Looks really nice otherwise!
     
  8. Robb

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    +1

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  9. ferrari bud

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    If it wasn't red I'd probably be doing a PPI. :)
     
  10. Robb

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    Chris,

    I agree, If it was blue, I'd already be there... :)

    Robb
     
  11. jimmym

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    Nice find Robb. Looks like a nice car.
     
  12. gobble

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    Guys, help me with the disconnect. I've always liked the 355. I was semi-serious about buying a Countach about 5 years ago and missed the boat big time on that one. Something that appreciates would be a nice change.

    I look at autotrader and see cars that look nice priced down to the 40's. Marshall Goldman, who is overpriced on every car they sell, has this nice looking 14k mile car priced at $69k.

    Cars for Sale: 1999 Ferrari F355 Spider in Warrensville Heights, OH 44128: Convertible Details - 368944154 - AutoTrader.com

    Why do we think 355's are worth $100 right now?

    I'd love to put my wife on a 355 and dump her Boxster...
     
  13. gobble

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    Following up on my last post, and now the wheels are spinning in my head, what should I realistically be able to buy that Marshall Goldman car for?
     
  14. INTMD8

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    While a very nice car, it seems a gated berlinetta/gts will command a premium over an F1 spider. (there are just a ton of spiders available).

    I think the car is priced about right. Maybe you could get it for mid 60's?
     
  15. ShineKen

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    You have about 40 Spiders to choose from in today's market. If you are looking for a GTB / GTS, it will be much harder to find the exact combo you are looking for.
     
  16. jimmym

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    The price doesn't seem to be that bad for a low mileage car. Marshall Goldman usually carries very nice examples. Make a lower offer and see where it goes if you really like the car.
     
  17. gobble

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    Probably the wrong thread to ask, I should do research elsewhere, but I've heard nightmare stories about the F1 transmission on the 355. Gated would probably be a better option?

    I'm posting in the wrong forum, but how much will a (current market) $65k 355 be worth in 5 years compared to a $65k 360? Is there some reason to believe the 355 will appreciate while the 360 will depreciate? I don't think many would argue that the 360 isn't a better car in terms of technology and reliability, but what about collectability?
     
  18. Freddan

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    F355 prices on the rise - for sure...
     
  19. lotusk

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    RH headlight pod looks misaligned to me...wide gap on its right edge.
    Upper dash and airbag cover in poor state
    Carbon something on center console
     
  20. Robb

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    Most nice F355 spiders with around 20-25k miles have been selling around 55k to 60k with slightly higher asking prices. Wiggle room seems to be around $3k.

    Lower miles than that and the selling price goes up toward 70k+ with a 75k+ ask

    We are now in the winter so spider demand may be at its lowest point in the year.

    And another factor seems to be the cars have hit bottom last year and are appreciating at $1k+ per month... This time next year - expect another jump.

    I haven't known Marshall Goldman to really ever budge much on their prices in watching them 10 years...

    Robb

     
  21. Robb

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    I think there will always be SOMETHING to fix on these cars until you get them sorted to your level of excellence. The goal is to jump in somewhere close to the top with no MAJOR issues and take care of the little issues at your own pace so you don't get priced out.

    Otherwise, people could wait forever for that 100% car.

    I think the carbon fiber console has a reflection on it. If you don't like the CF, some other owner would probably trade you...

    If the PPI numbers look good - someone should start negotiating who wants a Gated B. Or forever hold your peace when they hit 100k in 2016. Gotta put eyes on the car and records. The ship is sailing.

    Porsche 911 Speedster - sailed
    Early 911 - sailed
    911 turbo / 930 turbo - sailed
    993 c2s / c4s - sailing
    308 Vetroresina - sailed
    Countach - sailed
    Challenge Stradale - sailed
    308 / 328 - sailing
    550 - sailing
    TR - sailing
    F355 - sailing

    What do you think is possibly left after these are gone, that is unique, looks beautiful and is relatively rare? Someone said there are likely 2500 F355's left in the US. That is 50 per state...

    You have 360 owners wanting to trade for them... One is going up. One is going down. Just don't wait too long - especially when you see an example that is without major issues.

    Robb





     
  22. gobble

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    It's interesting because I've had an 80's 911. Wouldn't want one today. I've had a 930 turbo. Slow by today's standards, wouldn't want one today. I've had a 993, great car, dated interior, wouldn't want one today. I've driven a testarossa on a track. Terrible car, wouldn't want one today. I watched (when I was looking at them) the Top Gear where they compare the Countach poster dream to actually driving it. They say bad car by today's standards and I ended up with a Gallardo....

    For some reason these are all going up in price....
     
  23. yelcab

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    Here is my missed the boat story.

    1988 M3, the original. Bought it new, sold it for $14K after 6 years. I really want that car back but I am not paying $40K for one with 100,000 miles.

    1984 Carrera, bought it used $21K, sold it for $14K after 6 years. Don't care for it back at any price.

    1980 911SC, bought for $8.5K, sold it for $11K 6 years later. Same car is $20K now. Don't want it back, certainly at these crazy prices.

    308 GT4 sold for $20K 7 years ago, don't want it back at any price.

    I am holding on to my Spider, 348C, 328, and the GT3. Looking to add a 355B but trying to be careful and take my time.
     
  24. Robb

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    I initially bought an '83 911 SC because I couldn't stretch to the 328 price. And while I loved the car, and would buy another, - it wasn't what I was LUSTING after. Just like settling with a girlfriend - you will always be thinking about what you really wanted in the first place - and she might not be IT.

    But once I stretched and bought my 328 - I had arrived at pure bliss - other than the air conditioning living in the desert - and selling it for my F355 Berlinetta 2 years ago kind of just helped me realize there was no need to go any further in the quest.

    There isn't anything out there that I could possible find in the Ferrari world short of an ENZO, F40, or 288 GTO that could give me a more exciting FULL-ownership experience.

    Good company indeed.

    Robb



     

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