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Discussion in '348/355' started by johnk..., Jan 16, 2015.

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  1. fatbillybob

    fatbillybob Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Funny you should mention that. Socal1 references the early days of weatherized connectors in 1995. I worked on my first BMW a 1995 in around 2000. I was very impressed with the quality using the same Bosch connectors and sensors yet their sensors don't break down from the heat and pins don't seem to spread and connecters don't seem to leak dirt past the seals. Now there are 6 BMW's in my family.

    Ferrari takes the low bidder. The Germans do a lot of little things an it all adds up to quality, sound engineering, and happier customers. What we in the aftermarket are doing is really just trying to get to where reliable cars already are. We want to be able to drive across the country without the event becoming a spectacular journey.
     
  2. lotusk

    lotusk Formula 3

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    Right
    So what can we do to make the 355's connectors up to the German standard?
     
  3. driveitdaily

    driveitdaily Formula 3

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    It all adds up to give the car its " character " . Talk to British car owners , they are proud to acknowledge their cars have the worst electrics on earth . lol
     
  4. fatbillybob

    fatbillybob Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Well the GCK is a start and may be the end for many. I think it is constant evolution. Even the GCK has changed and improved since the prototype. Quality is a moving target as is compromise. One poster mentioned aftermarket ECU. That's great but it is a tough sell to the next guy. How far do you go? I buy cars for me. I do with it takes to make the car work for me not the next guy. If I had a real problem I would evaluate all the options and choose accordingly. I live in a smog state. An aftermarket ECU is not possible.
     
  5. lotusk

    lotusk Formula 3

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    Well i'm doing all the 2 and 3 pin sensors on my M2.7 with the GCK.
    I'm gonna make sure the copper strands are well clean before crimping on the new connector.
     
  6. taz355

    taz355 F1 Veteran
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    I did mine in about 2010 and i am glad i did them all. As stated previously car ran fine before and seems like it runs better. Also have not had any electrical issues. As stated my 99 is now 15 years old and i am sure all the connectors had never been repaired due to their terrible state before i did the kit. I chose to do it when the engine was out over the winter. I will never know but i can tell you every injector connection was cracked beyond belief they were the worst, others were better but still very cracked. I kinda think it was a time bomb just waiting to happen due to their visual appearance alone. My opinion is budget to do them and the future will be brighter. I love the kit and plan on keeping the car for a long time for me it was a no brainer. I am sure in many cases just replacing them with similar will be far better than doing nothing.
     
  7. SoCal1

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    Going to break down and get one instead of the stooge solution. too lazy to source all the boots and seals. I bill my hobby time to myself @100hr so better to buy them complete.
    Keeps me on target :)
     
  8. fatbillybob

    fatbillybob Two Time F1 World Champ
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    #33 fatbillybob, Jan 17, 2015
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    I agree with all of you. Old Ferrari electronics is a ticking time bomb for each owner to see himself. I can show any owner on their own car. It is imperative to be anal with this solution. The positive result is directly proportional to the time and attention to detail you put in including perfect factory type crimps as shown. Not every tool that says it can make this simple crimp can do it. You either need to find one that can or modify one that will. I would have to shop 10 places and spend hours trying to source all the parts and even all the pins. There are like 4 pairs of just pins in there among the 500 that any electronic house sells, many which are so close it is hard to tell them apart. If anyone wants to make 0.50 cents an hours sourcing parts more power to them. The SRI solution is turnkey and tested and you know what you are going to get. If you do something stupid like flush your FBB2 down the toilet support is right there a phone call away and new product on its way. That's where the value is support, tested, proven solution, and predictable results.
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