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  1. 300GW/RO

    300GW/RO Formula 3

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    Stock? Taller gearing? What I like most driver not wearing a pair of silly little driving gloves nor helmet. Get in and go....fast....

    Kills me seeing guys getting-out of their mid '70's 911's with those ridiculous half-palmed sized leather-webbed driving gloves!

    Jack
     
  2. key03

    key03 Karting

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    One take Jim McMahon
     
  3. 300GW/RO

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    Not bad, little quick to the top w/slight crossing of line w/clubhead; good lower body sequencing/rotation; rt. leg little too stiff; "casted" over-the top on downswing with slice bias.

    Real or replica car?

    Jack
     
  4. ApexOversteer

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    ... and he wasn't buried in it, he was just in it for the wake. The red/yellow interior was changed to black/yellow at some point after that...
     
  5. Lars_vet

    Lars_vet Formula Junior

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    The early cars did that.
    The claimed factory top speed of 324kmh (dependent on where you find the info) is just a number they picked, which happened to be 1 mph faster than the F40 claimed top speed.... 
    In fact Nardo, the track where the speed was tested, officially did not allow speeds above 315kmh due to the Armco construction, but Italian rules seem easier to bend somehow. Munari was measured at 340kmh (not specified if indicated or speed trap (IIRC) at Nardo during the official measurements, but 324kmh was chosen somehow.
    CAR magazine went back to Nardo with laser a speed trap and a privately owned stock ( no-wing) Diablo and did 206.9mh/331kmh a year or so later.
    The full article is available online I believe, otherwise I can scan my original copy to the forum.

    Anyway, it all becomes a little theoretical as the relatively small radius of Nardo shaves of a lot of speeds. The natural speed (no steering input is 240kmh). Straight line speed, if you can find enough straight line, would be higher.

    I have had a few chances to experiment with the early cars top speed, and I have no doubt that 330-ish kmh holds true.
    With the wing removed I did 330kmh indicated and 321kmh GPS with a 5 sec (sample rate) relatively easy, and backed out as I ran out of clear space. The car is without cats, but otherwise stock, and was still accelerating.

    The frontal area and cw on the diablo combined with the looong gearing in the early cars, makes I quite capable of high speeds.

    I am not sure how the cw, frontal area combined with 5th gear /final gear ratio on the later cars compare?

    The whole supercar top speed battle in the 90s is quite fascinating. The EB110 and Jaguar XJ220 also made some impressive numbers, but it worth to mention that these cars were not really stock.

    The EB110 was aerodynamically quite “optimized” with tape, different wheels, no mirrors and stripped out interior.
    The XJ220 had its cats removed. Also since both cars had turbochargers, It isn’t hard to imagine them risking a little extra boost over a limited period of time.

    http://yo.spc.free.fr/Bugatti%20register/Home/large/121.jpg
     
  6. Taurean Bull

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    Hell of a good post Lars. Great info.

    Isn't Nardo also less than ideal due to the actual condition of the surface?
     
  7. Britzky9

    Britzky9 Formula Junior

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    A car with no documentation, doesn't have the original wheels, and as someone reported earlier has a paint issue?

    The last Lucky Motors price listed was $97k.


    What a joke.
     
  8. andecorp

    andecorp Formula 3

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    Hell yeah!
     
  9. Lars_vet

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    Thanks.
    The speed ring was build in the 70s, and I am not sure how the surface was in 1990, when Lamborghini and Munari was there, but I have heard stories about a rough surface. Today it is owned by Porsche, I would imagine that they would keep the surface pretty well maintained.

    Looking at the onboard video with Sandro Munari doing an indicated 340+kmh, I think it could correspond reasonably to a real speed of around 330kmh, as verified later on by CAR magazine.
    Also, note the steering angle and amount of corrections required.

    Looking at Jaguar and Bugatties speed test, I also find it amusing the these guys use the full race equipment in special prepared cars, while Munari takes a street Diablo, wearing a suit and goes directly to 330kmh. He even takes time to correct his hair in between gear shifts :) Munari is one cool guy!


    I am pretty sure that the car in the video is the Factory press car, the same car which is featured in Stefano Pasini´s great book on the Diablo from 1991, and also the video produced by Duke (which also includes the famous Nardo run).
    Anyone happen to know the VIN on this car?
     
  10. roytoy2003

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  13. ferraribooks

    ferraribooks Formula Junior

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    Hah,

    Who would have thought Roy slow to the 6.0 party!?
     
  14. key03

    key03 Karting

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    I think that will be a poorly attended party by a bunch of dreamers. Probably an uncomfortable gathering.
     
  15. Boomhauer

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