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  1. singletrack

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    Do you think he will get back in the car if it really accelerated him into a wall?

    I think "maybe".

    But, then you add in the apparent total lack of concern by McLaren and I don't think he does get back in the car. I wouldn't.
     
  2. Kiwi Nick

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    #27 Kiwi Nick, Mar 3, 2015
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    Theory # 2: Alonso was indeed shocked, causing him to crash. He is now using that information (while hiding his personal medical records) to blackmail Macca/Honda to win a release form his contract with full pay. M/H do not want it to be known that their car was that faulty, and Alonso wants to be free to move to Merc, without losing a years pay. Sitting out 2015 will not cost him any wins and certainly not a WDC. Being unavailable for the 2016 Merc seat could end his career without winning another WDC.
     
  3. Kiwi Nick

    Kiwi Nick Formula 3

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    Let's just say that if they gave Oscars for F1 drama, Ron Dennis would be the all-time leader in statues collected. But, Alonso is THE rising star in the leading actor category. Both of them in the same drama guarantees that one of them will be the 2015 winner.
     
  4. texasmr2

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    Ron is a true thespian but lets admit that Alonso's attitude is no different from a few other past WDC's, food for thought.
     
  5. Kiwi Nick

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    It is not difficult to acknowledge that Alonso has had the spotlight almost entirely to himself for nearly a year. Few, if any, drivers can say that absent a spectacularly successful season.
     
  6. DeSoto

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    Nice work of fiction but even if Alonso could hide or fake his medical records, the doctors that McLaren would hire to check him before agreeing a contract termination would be able to spot the scam.
     
  7. TifosiUSA

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    I see the Alonso hater brigade has shown up.
     
  8. SlvSurfer

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    Screw Mclaren :)
     
  9. gmbjr

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    Ron and Alonso, what a pair.
     
  10. Kiwi Nick

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    That's not really the point. After all, the doctors who are speaking now say that he is perfectly normal. If the choice is, have Alonso spill the beans about the electrocution or pay to shut him up, the McLaren doctor's opinion doesn't matter. McLaren are not going to say that Alonso is faking it, just to see him say that their car electrocuted him and is inherently unsafe. It might make it a little difficult for Honda to tout their F1 hybrid technology on the showroom floor.

    This is setting up to be one of those deals where the facts, if we ever know them, don't matter.
     
  11. David Lind

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    Just a guess here, but there's probably some FIA protocol for injured drivers being cleared to return to competition. IF Alonso has some medical issue, which now appears to be acknowledged, then returning to the track w/ the other drivers present should mandate written medical clearance(s). At some point before he can drive again, it would seem that Alonso must declare the nature of his medical condition both at the time of the accident and upon his resumption of racing again.
     
  12. ricksb

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    I just don't know where he'd go if he broke his contract with Macca.

    I'm in the camp of those who believe that either a) he was electrocuted by the ERG or MGU system or b) he suffered a seizure and the physicians haven't been able to determine why at this point (ergo, he cannot drive for fear it could happen again in a race).

    I'm more inclined to go with b)...it would be simpler for McLaren to admit he was shocked if that's what happened. The story is more problematic because they've been dodgy versus just saying 'we had an equipment malfunction so we are suspending our testing programme until we have installed additional safety measures into our cars'.

    On the other hand, if Alonso suffered a spontaneous seizure, we could be talking about the end of his racing career. They will want to have all of the facts down cold before delivering that message to the public, and most importantly will want to know if there is a linkable cause. I believe the secrecy could be more a measure to protect Alonso than the McLaren team.
     
  13. rotaryrocket7

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    That's an interesting theory...makes more sense.
     
  14. DeSoto

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    Oh, I get it. But you are so so cruel. :)

    Terminating the contract already in preseason testing? That would break the previous record by Nigel Mansell.
     
  15. Kiwi Nick

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    The FIA, McLaren and Honda have a huge steak in Alonso not being shocked. First the FIA have reassured drivers, crews and track workers that there is zero chance of electrical shock or electrocution. That has been an inviolable tenet of the hybrid era. Second, McLaren don't want to admit that their car was a faulty and dangerous design. Third, Honda loses the credibility they sought from F1 if they admit that their hybrid system electrocuted the best drive of this era.

    All of them, including Alonso, would far prefer that the cause of the accident and Alonso's difficulties was the result of some quirk of nature that none of the parties involved knew of or could possibly plan for. The claim that the accident was caused by a gust of wind was an attempt to do just that.
     
  16. ricksb

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    I just don't think McLaren would be able to hide the event during a relatively public testing session. If it did happen, the drivers, crews and track workers are already aware of it. I don't see how obscuring this from the viewing public would suit their needs as opposed to the participants in the sport. Even then, it would be a single incident occurring with a team coming to grips with a new power unit supplier.

    Whatever the case, I agree the "gust of wind" angle doesn't carry much weight.
     
  17. gmbjr

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    Why is it always McLaren that is involved in this sort of stuff? Crashgate, spygate, electrocutiongate, McLaren has a systemic issue that comes from the top down. These do not appear to be honest people. They don't ever come clean and they won't start now. Months, maybe years from now, the FIA will set the record straight and we will shake our heads once again in amazement. These guy are "the evil empire."
     
  18. SlvSurfer

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    You know that Jag commerical "its good to be bad"? McLaren should use that instead!
     
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    If that really is the case. I wonder if it's in the back of Button's head. I hate being static shock on a door knob. Imagine in an F1 car. If it were the case.


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  20. merstheman

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    This looks to me a bit like a modern F1 verion of Senna's tactics to get paid by McLaren in 1993. "I think this car is ****, I have nothing else to prove, you want me more than I want you so...show me the money"...
     
  21. crinoid

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    The only strange thing about the electric shock theory is that the track marshals and car handlers seems to have not hesitated in touching the car nor did they seem to take any additional care or safety precautions. So weird.
     
  22. GordonC

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    Hilarious! :D. Tell us again how McLaren was responsible for Briatore and Renault persuading Piquet Jr. To deliberately crash in Singapore? :p

    In fact, the common element among those three events is (obviously) not McLaren, but Alonso! Alonso was deep in spygate, very deep in Crashgate, and now this incident. By your own conclusion, then, it's Alonso who is the evil empire!
     
  23. Kiwi Nick

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    It goes without saying. It is a matter of DNA. This would be the second contrived collision that was intended to benefit Nando.
     
  24. Kiwi Nick

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    Not so weird if a short had caused a complete discharge.
     
  25. gmbjr

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    You're right, it's passgate (Australia 2009). So it's spygate, passgate, electrocutiongate.

    McLaren can't seem to stay out of the marbles for very long. It's not their nature.
     

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