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  1. 360Spider_Russia

    May 27, 2014
    54
    Moscow, Russia
    Full Name:
    Alex
    Hi!
    im have a carbon brakes kit(front+rear calipers disks) from 430

    and i want to install it into my 360

    is it possible? and all systems will working correctly?
     
  2. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Jul 19, 2008
    38,083
    Clarksville, Tennessee
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    Terry H Phillips
    Yup, will work fine, but if you have OEM 18" wheels, you may (probably will) have a clearance issue with the 6 piston calipers and 380 mm rotors up front. Probably also a good idea to change the master cylinder to the CCM one from the F430.
     
  3. titanio360

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  4. 360Spider_Russia

    May 27, 2014
    54
    Moscow, Russia
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    Alex
    Master cylinders are different 360-430?
     
  5. 360Spider_Russia

    May 27, 2014
    54
    Moscow, Russia
    Full Name:
    Alex
    Thanks for answer
    this year im will use a 19" ADV wheels)
     
  6. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Jul 19, 2008
    38,083
    Clarksville, Tennessee
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    Master cylinders are different standard brakes and CCM brakes. The CS used the same brakes as the optional F430 brakes. The larger calipers need more pressure.
     
  7. kommons

    kommons Karting

    Sep 30, 2013
    215
    Silicon Valley, CA
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    Chris
    I have the CCM kit and I'm still using the standard master cylinder. You have to use considerably more pressure to get full lock on the brakes but you get used to it. If you got the full kit, you probably have the CCM booster as well so you could install if you don't like the standard one.
     
  8. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Jul 19, 2008
    38,083
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    Chris- For heel and toeing, the heavier brake pedal pressure might even be better, but most owners, especially with F1, would probably want the larger master cylinder.
     
  9. Living4life

    Living4life Formula Junior

    Jun 29, 2008
    263
    I have a Stradale and a 360 converted to 430 Challenge CCB brakes....Very little pedal difference even though they have different master cylinders. No worries.
     
  10. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Jul 19, 2008
    38,083
    Clarksville, Tennessee
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    Terry H Phillips
    Sounds like it is not an issue, then.
     
  11. no8080

    no8080 Karting

    May 5, 2011
    83
    Uk
    I put CCM on my 430, I did not swap the master cylinder out to begin with, I noticed no difference when I put the upgraded CCM master cylinder in the car.

    Its worth replacing the brake hoses with braided stainless steel hoses at the same time as the CCM swap.

    Neil
     
  12. redduke

    redduke Karting

    Apr 19, 2011
    146
    Silverstone - UK
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    Tim
    I believe you also need CCM specific handbrake callipers and pads for the rear wheels too. The Ferrari CCM kit that I had dealer installed cam with them.
     
  13. rmarchjr

    rmarchjr Formula Junior

    May 21, 2012
    576
    North east, USA
    I also upgraded my 430 from stock 4piston calipers to big brembos w 6 pistons (no mc change). I did not even notice the difference in foot pressure, but did notice a much better initial bite and no fade after repeat use.

    Ive heard that the abs algorithm in the abs ECU is different for ccm vs iron, but don't know if that's true.
     
  14. margarita

    margarita Formula 3

    Mar 20, 2011
    1,617
    usa
    Looks niceee
     

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