Mondial front seat upholstery question

Dremel tool kit....grasshopper.......make sure your rivet gun fits space to reinstall.......

 

That's what I use, when the 4" Milwaukee grinder doesn't fit.......LOL!

 

Birdman, don’t know if they are the same as my 348. The 348 headrests required brute force, scary thing when working on a Ferrari. They simply pulled out of the seat backs but took an amazing amount of force! Easier to get leverage with the spider top down. Your coupe could be more difficult. Good Luck!

 

Truthfully, I have no idea!

I drive my cars around on ratty upholstery!! LOL!

I was just suggesting a better tool for close quarters disassembly!

In a fixed roof coupe I don't think they were meant to pull out......that plate is the upper travel stop of the slide bars, correct?

 

If no one else knows, call Matt Jones at Reoriginals.....

 

Hello Birdman
I have the same problem with them. Even with a lot of power I cant get them of the seats. I'm really intrested how you did manage....
Greetings, Guido

 

Please do post pics as I'm faced with the same task.

If you don't mind, where did you find the piping for the seats? Is it leather piping? That's really all that's shot on mine.

 

Through the graciousness of our own Judge4re, I have his old set of shot Mondial seats, and was also looking to re-do them into the perfect Mondial seats.

Does your friend perhaps have any recommendations of replacing or upgrading the stuffing to make them a bit more comfortable? I'd be interested in re-doing these in a softer matching tan leather on the faces matchng the original pattern with the stiffer stuff on the sides in addition to somehow up-rating the foam to give a softer and more comfortable seat -- perhaps even adding a little lumbar support curve.

I'd also like a bit taller headrest made like te one on a Testarossa - the stock one just does nothing. Hmmm - hey Birdman, there's a product we could develop together that would fit all pre-89 Mondials -- a headrest that actually works and just slides in! We could use the TR or Dino/Daytona as a pattern.

You game? I've got the two test seats I could send your friend...

 

Just an idea: Taller where you could rest your head, adjustable angle set screw knob and keep the original horizontal trim stitch.

Could be made original by just putting the original headrest in.
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I dislike the Mondial seats intensely. They are probably among the most uncomfortable seats I have ever had the discomfort of sitting on for ANY distance. Plus they don't hold you in place at all - a canvas deck chair does a better job!

I am replacing them with tilting & reclining racing style buckets of my own design with my own pneumatic lumbar and side bolster support and planning to use laminated visco-elastic foam. Of course if they turn out to be lousy I only have myself to blame...

 

They aren't great, but at 215 lbs and 6'2", they work better for me than the crap in my 308 QV...

 

Merry Christmas my friend. Consider it my personal THANK YOU for going over to Iraq and saving some young kids...

 

Hard to say - Would be nice to have something period Ferrari (e.g. like a TR)that you could actually rest the head on, match the stock seats and it could easily go back to stock. The people who would appreciate it would be the drivers.
I had looked at putting TR seats in the car, but now that I think about it, the headrest would be all I need. Just looking at it, it might just slide in - the struts are also widely placed..

Here's a photo of a TR seat, and a quick compo sketch of Mondial seats with standard and TR headrest (use your imagination here) - which looks more functional?
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any chance we'll see picts of the finished seats?


Patrick

 

russ, how 'bout just bolting the TR seats in. do we know if they'd fit? and yes the Mondi seats are just plain horrible. as to the head rest removal, mine just pop out, not sure if they should per Jons description but mine do.

 

It would be cool if they fit. I'm looking at lots of options, perhaps not so extreme. Some ideas include restuffing with different foams, using a different leather (like comfortable aircraft seat leather) on the seating surfaces. We're even lookin at a more classic way of having a grippy seat tht is large person friendly by using a color coordinated courderoy (like earlier racing Ferraris) on the seating surfaces and keeping the same stiching pattern.

Stefan from GTS Seats said he would build us a custom adjustable angle headrest that would be a slide in replacement - cost probably less than $100.

Anyway, everything is on hold with the current "little" engine project...

 

I usually make my own piping on my upholstery sewing machine. You can have an upholstery shop make the piping in any color leather or vinyl you choose. Of course you will need to remove and disassemble the seats to remove the old piping and resew the new piping in place

 

Birdman, on my '83 QV there is 1 pin located on the right side, horizontally going trough a notch in the downward tube holding the headrest. My photo shows you the position and orientation of it. The tube diameters left and right are not the same on mine, the left one being slightly smaller.
You can get the pin out from below with a long rod and force. You cannot get it back in without cutting the foam though. The particular asymmetrical shape of the last notch allows the headrests to be mounted from the top, and then prevents it from being taken out again by pulling it up.
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good evening Paul, now working on the Seats of the Mondial, dying the leather from tan to black with great results and now I need to remove the headrest

What is your best advice in to how to do the removal
Thank you very much



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