Ferrari LaFerrari vs Mclaren P1 vs Porsche 918

mikesufka · Mar 25, 2015

Great post Wtdoom - I really enjoyed reading that. I will pass along to a friend of mine who just bought a 918.

MDS

glendon · Mar 25, 2015

Congratulations on taking delivery of the 918 Wtdoom!
Car looks very fast out of the corners!
Hope you can find some more willing p1/laf owners!

hootan · Mar 25, 2015

Just WoW, 100X better than some boring magazines tests
Thank You So Lot Doom!
And a special thanks to sharing your experience!!

Bill S · Mar 25, 2015

Nice post.

mpowered · Mar 25, 2015

Everyone in this thread needs to buy a carrera gt now while they're under 800k, i'm sure they'll reach parity or be worth more than an enzo (going for 2 mil now) eventually. Maybe in 25 years.

Midnight Oil · Mar 25, 2015

Starts slow clap.. Finally, a worthwhile post in this mostly dreadful bickering fest. Well done WT, beatifully stated.

mvaldezf60 · Mar 25, 2015

Great writeup of your experience with the 918 at speed! Have you thought of creating any short videos of your new track weapon?

furmano · Mar 25, 2015

Wtdoom said: ↑

Here you go kind sir , my observations on a fantastic spa trip.
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Doom,

Great write up, one of the best in a while. Thanks for posting it up. Got to love the 918. It's good to know Porsche still makes real deal super cars.

-F

Ferrarista3 · Mar 26, 2015

Thank you Doom. Wonderful writeup.

Maxige · Mar 26, 2015

Wtdoom said: ↑

Here you go kind sir , my observations on a fantastic spa trip .

The 918 and la ferrari were very evenly matched . In short , which ones faster depends on the track . It was wet in places and a real challenge .Perhaps stupidly I drove with all driving aids switched off .The car is very very knife edged to drive like this . I span at least 8 times , I don't mean a wee slide here and there I mean full blown 360 and more . The torque and power is savage .
Then we went out together with the la ferrari . The 918 destroys it out of corners , I wasn't able to capitalise on this as I would soon get stuck in traffic allowing the LF to catch up again . I couldn't bully may way past either side like on an RMA day and a lot of the traffic was far too inconsistent to risk anything . The car is stable if driven with care and respect but does not suffer fools gladly ( in the freezing cold and wet on cups at least ...). I couldn't use full acceleration and the 918s biggest advantage ( HARD braking into the apex, to then be fired out by hotlap mode ) yet still managed to hold position. My tyres started to go off and Unfortunately I had an incident going into Eu rouge that put me well off . I braked hard and the car slid forward , 350 miles into the cars life and first ever trackday , I don't mind telling you it was a rush but it was scary and that bought things to an end. I believe the la ferrari is noticeably faster at the top end . 918 better into , around and out of corners . In the dry it would be very interesting . Unfortunately we didn't go out again . Id love to track it against a p1 , anyone know an owner ?

Then The Colonel arrived in the Carrera gt and in the pouring rain , I took out the carrera gt and immediately remembered what true love is . Yes they ( 918 , p1 , la ferrari) are so much faster , so much more comfortable and in the case of the 918 so better looking and better built but nothing compares to the fury of a Carrera GT . The car was so violent so sideways, the scream bought everyone to the pit wall and her antics on track had the marshals clapping( imagine that in the uk) . Its such a raw , violent , undiluted driving experience .

The real issue was that once the la ferrari went home I was all alone . Then the 918 was too fast , too capable , too exciting . The track became an obstacle course of mobile chicanes and a road car with 900 hp and over 1000torques , with no race suit , fire extinguisher , roll cage , tank bag and with road tyres and aero meant that for the first time in my life I though "if I crash now they will find bits of me in Bermuda". Its shatteringly fast . In short you can't interact with other cars in these new hypercars , they are so much faster than supercars that you drive around alone , at your own pace . The carrera gt has been caught up by cars and still represents a challenge .

The carrera GT did all the driving on day 2 against a gaggle of allegedly faster cars ( GT2/RS/12C/Cup cars, aston race cars ,radicals , ultimas, you name it) . Everyone that experienced its fury from the passenger seat was blown away , she is the love of my life , a challenge that rewards like no other , a katana in a world of fire arms , a more elegant way of doing violence . The Dragon howled round the racetrack with another yellow yellow Carrera GT , a truly life affirming experience . I will never forget the howling , it still rings hauntingly in my ears now days later .

In short for my purpose the 918 is the supreme hypercer . A superfast , really exiting road car that can tour , drag race and track day with the best of them . Yet the comfort is shocking , you can genuinely tour europe ( one tank from spa to home in the uk with 70 miles to go in the tank) , the phone , sat nav , sound system electric seats are unsurpassed . I can take the roof off . I imagine racing a classic at Spa and driving the 918 over in the sun with the roofs off , enjoying the back roads with Bach pouring like liquid gold from the Burmester sound system . HEAVEN ON EARTH . The supreme do it all car for Porsche lovers and a fitting addition to the Carrera GT , not a replacement an addition . Im sure the La ferarri and P1 are the same to their owners .

The Carrera GT is the lost Le mans Race Car , betrayed by rule changes and banished into the dark . A warrior without a war . An anachronism , able to exult and elate the devoted yet brutally , mercilessly , punish the unbeliever . It becomes part of you, she talks to you , threatens and whispers to you , urges you to acts of valour and rewards with elation and exultation almost beyond belief .

99 per cent of the time one would choose the 918 spyder , la ferrari or p1 over the Carrera GT but on that one drive , the no holds barred purely for fun , knife edged drive , when a stereo is an insult , Bach a heretic and comfort a thing undreamed of the Carrera GT shines . It howls at you and challenges you to take its key .
Its such a special machine that machine doesn't do it justice , I swear its a living sentient being with her own lusts and furies .

So for me the winner of the La Ferrari vs the 918 vs the P1 is the Carrera GT , some of the time .
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Post of the year my friend, post of the year!

Can't wait to go out on track with you again, next time I have to get a ride in the CGT!

rmolke85 · Mar 26, 2015

I for one have said this for a decade now. The MIGHTY Carrera GT is hands down the best road going car EVER created by man. And with regulations, it will certainly stay this way.

.
the
end

Murcielago_Boy · Mar 26, 2015

Wtdoom said: ↑

Here you go kind sir , my observations on a fantastic spa trip .

The 918 and la ferrari were very evenly matched . In short , which ones faster depends on the track . It was wet in places and a real challenge .Perhaps stupidly I drove with all driving aids switched off .The car is very very knife edged to drive like this . I span at least 8 times , I don't mean a wee slide here and there I mean full blown 360 and more . The torque and power is savage .
Then we went out together with the la ferrari . The 918 destroys it out of corners , I wasn't able to capitalise on this as I would soon get stuck in traffic allowing the LF to catch up again . I couldn't bully may way past either side like on an RMA day and a lot of the traffic was far too inconsistent to risk anything . The car is stable if driven with care and respect but does not suffer fools gladly ( in the freezing cold and wet on cups at least ...). I couldn't use full acceleration and the 918s biggest advantage ( HARD braking into the apex, to then be fired out by hotlap mode ) yet still managed to hold position. My tyres started to go off and Unfortunately I had an incident going into Eu rouge that put me well off . I braked hard and the car slid forward , 350 miles into the cars life and first ever trackday , I don't mind telling you it was a rush but it was scary and that bought things to an end. I believe the la ferrari is noticeably faster at the top end . 918 better into , around and out of corners . In the dry it would be very interesting . Unfortunately we didn't go out again . Id love to track it against a p1 , anyone know an owner ?

Then The Colonel arrived in the Carrera gt and in the pouring rain , I took out the carrera gt and immediately remembered what true love is . Yes they ( 918 , p1 , la ferrari) are so much faster , so much more comfortable and in the case of the 918 so better looking and better built but nothing compares to the fury of a Carrera GT . The car was so violent so sideways, the scream bought everyone to the pit wall and her antics on track had the marshals clapping( imagine that in the uk) . Its such a raw , violent , undiluted driving experience .

The real issue was that once the la ferrari went home I was all alone . Then the 918 was too fast , too capable , too exciting . The track became an obstacle course of mobile chicanes and a road car with 900 hp and over 1000torques , with no race suit , fire extinguisher , roll cage , tank bag and with road tyres and aero meant that for the first time in my life I though "if I crash now they will find bits of me in Bermuda". Its shatteringly fast . In short you can't interact with other cars in these new hypercars , they are so much faster than supercars that you drive around alone , at your own pace . The carrera gt has been caught up by cars and still represents a challenge .

The carrera GT did all the driving on day 2 against a gaggle of allegedly faster cars ( GT2/RS/12C/Cup cars, aston race cars ,radicals , ultimas, you name it) . Everyone that experienced its fury from the passenger seat was blown away , she is the love of my life , a challenge that rewards like no other , a katana in a world of fire arms , a more elegant way of doing violence . The Dragon howled round the racetrack with another yellow yellow Carrera GT , a truly life affirming experience . I will never forget the howling , it still rings hauntingly in my ears now days later .

In short for my purpose the 918 is the supreme hypercer . A superfast , really exiting road car that can tour , drag race and track day with the best of them . Yet the comfort is shocking , you can genuinely tour europe ( one tank from spa to home in the uk with 70 miles to go in the tank) , the phone , sat nav , sound system electric seats are unsurpassed . I can take the roof off . I imagine racing a classic at Spa and driving the 918 over in the sun with the roofs off , enjoying the back roads with Bach pouring like liquid gold from the Burmester sound system . HEAVEN ON EARTH . The supreme do it all car for Porsche lovers and a fitting addition to the Carrera GT , not a replacement an addition . Im sure the La ferarri and P1 are the same to their owners .

The Carrera GT is the lost Le mans Race Car , betrayed by rule changes and banished into the dark . A warrior without a war . An anachronism , able to exult and elate the devoted yet brutally , mercilessly , punish the unbeliever . It becomes part of you, she talks to you , threatens and whispers to you , urges you to acts of valour and rewards with elation and exultation almost beyond belief .

99 per cent of the time one would choose the 918 spyder , la ferrari or p1 over the Carrera GT but on that one drive , the no holds barred purely for fun , knife edged drive , when a stereo is an insult , Bach a heretic and comfort a thing undreamed of the Carrera GT shines . It howls at you and challenges you to take its key .
Its such a special machine that machine doesn't do it justice , I swear its a living sentient being with her own lusts and furies .

So for me the winner of the La Ferrari vs the 918 vs the P1 is the Carrera GT , some of the time .
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THIS. IS. BRILLIANT.
(and the result is no surprise either. I rate the CGT as the greatest sports car of all time.)

CarMaven · Mar 26, 2015

@WT Doom

As stated previously: Brilliantly written and surmised Mr. Doom (along with the driving exploits).

Congrats, and keep it coming!!

PS: So you did drive the 918 to Spa, then track it?

I apologize if anyone had asked this previously. But what was it like driving the 918 on the road those distances (if you did)? Were all the creature comforts as rewarding and exciting as you mentioned in your prose? How do you compare it to some of the other high performance/exotic/collectible cars you've driven that type of distance (since you so documented your track exploits on a damp surface that day)?

Note: I'm speaking about the total package of the power, torque, creature comforts, open top, etc. Was it really that enjoyable? Or you were just waxing poetic for our sake (or others-LOL), or the fact that it's there when you want it?

Thanks and enjoy!!

Diablo60 · Mar 26, 2015

Totally agree with you. CGT is one of the most exciting and probabile the most exciting and "drivable" at the same. Also Ferrari has a good exciting car...f40 but is different from CGT.

Wtdoom, Maxige, Manuma do you think in the same way for the Enzo respect to LaF??

And Maxige can you let me know how faster (just in progression) is LaF than F40?

Thanks and congrats for the videos!

rmolke85 · Mar 26, 2015

After all the dribble in this thread, I like where it went here.

PS: If Chris Harris is listening, please PLEASE get a hold of a CGT for a quick shoot.

Apolo1 · Mar 27, 2015

So this thread saved its best for last....

Brilliant write up......

CarMaven · Mar 27, 2015

And yes (as if needed to be said), the Carrera GT sounds like an actual living, breathing, snorting/angry, while at the same time melodious sounding animal!!

Just an incredible machine.

Nice to see both the LaFe and 918 on the track as well.

TopspeedPT · Mar 27, 2015

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VQ3ROolkyU[/ame]

Igor Ound · Mar 27, 2015

TopspeedPT said: ↑

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VQ3ROolkyU
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Chris Harris on a P1.

Yawn.

Whoopsy · Mar 27, 2015

Best and most accurate quote:

"Feels like a very special version of the 650S"

Zaius · Mar 28, 2015

Whoopsy said: ↑

Best and most accurate quote:

"Feels like a very special version of the 650S"
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He also said LaFerrari felt like a special 458.

noone1 · Mar 28, 2015

Zaius said: ↑

He also said LaFerrari felt like a special 458.
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So did several owners.

It's to be expected being that they are mid-engine cars and no doubt use a lot of the same underlying technology, albeit further refined. The 918 would as well if Porsche had a mid-engine exotic.

boyko23 · Mar 28, 2015

Lava lost badly...
DRAG RACE: LaFerrari vs Bugatti Veyron - Vmax Stealth: https://youtu.be/zkqSVm__UIU

s-mario · Mar 28, 2015

boyko23 said: ↑

Lava lost badly...
DRAG RACE: LaFerrari vs Bugatti Veyron - Vmax Stealth: https://youtu.be/zkqSVm__UIU
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Hmm, damp track, 2wd vs AWD, condition of the tires, hardly conclusive, last September it looked a little different:

http://youtu.be/O1EjXrFoOE4

s-mario · Mar 28, 2015

noone1 said: ↑

So did several owners.

It's to be expected being that they are mid-engine cars and no doubt use a lot of the same underlying technology, albeit further refined. The 918 would as well if Porsche had a mid-engine exotic.
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Actually I would agree!

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