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  1. Igor Ound

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    #1 Igor Ound, Apr 6, 2015
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    Who is it IYV? Not just based on the current market offerings but historically and racing-wise too. Who do you think right away as Ferrari's antithesis?

    Porsche?
    Lamborgini?
    Mercedes?
    McLaren?
    Aston Martin?
    Others?
     
  2. Gran Drewismo

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    Lamborghini historically.

    Now a days there is so much wealth in the world that none of those are really a competitor anymore.

    In GT racing, most series have the cars so equal due to rules and regulations it's pretty much neck and neck. I suppose Corvette would be the strongest competition.
     
  3. Phil~

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    Corvette wins more in GT but that is due to much more invested, so a bit unfair.

    As for for competitor: Merge Lamborghini's Exotic Flair with Porsche's Racing and you have your competition.
     
  4. Igor Ound

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    Racing-wise I'd say Mercedes. Now and then.
    LdM used to say Porsche were their main competitor.
    Lamborghini was born to be Ferrari's antithesis.
    Mclaren is doing whatever they can to be seen as Ferrari's alternative.
    That's a difficult one but I imagine if you asked most people on the street they'd say Lambo.
     
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  6. Igor Ound

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    Fieros are in a league of their own above Ferrari and the guys at Maranello keep badly copying their always new and different styles.

    Btw just happening to be watching Chris Harris and Tiff Needel pitching The GT3 and the Speciale against each other in new Fith Gear. The answer might be in front of my eyes already.
     
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    Lmao
     
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    If that's not enough evidence for you, take a look at the current hypercar crop and see who actually deals the most damage 😉
     
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    Porsche doesn't really do F1 though, and makes all sort of vehicles. Not a perfect match then but is it the best one? I start to think Lambo is the best match, especially as VW is ramping up their racing efforts and there were voices of them taking over Toro Rosso.
    I think VW themselves see Lambo as a better competitor to Ferrari than Porsche.

    OTOH Porsche are prepping a 458 rival...
     
  11. monkeygrease

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    Right now I'd say Lamborghini and McLaren are competitors with Porsche preparing a mid-engine car to compete with Ferrari.

    Historically, I'd say maybe Lotus.
     
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    I would say Lambo
     
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    fixed.
     
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    That an amazing piece of work ...
     
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    Porsche? No
    Lamborgini? Yes
    Mercedes? No, not really
    McLaren? Yes
    Aston Martin? Almost--maybe the F-V12s versus the A-V12s only
    Others? Bugatti, Koingsegg
     
  16. Rifledriver

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    I know the one Ferrari hates the most is Porsche.


    Best not to say the word in a Ferrari building. Mention Lamborghini and they just laugh but Porsche is a very bad word.


    One of the guys I knew at Ferrari and was an all around car guy bought a 356. He got so much crap from the company he sold it.



    Take it or leave it but that's their perspective.
     
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    Porsche is the clearest direct competitor. It is the Germanic equivalent of Ferrari. You trade a bit of the sizzle and sass for reliability and practicality. You don't trade off on the driving characteristics at all, however.

    The cars have balance, road feel, performance. The performance range matches Ferraris up and down, but they have gone much more mass market in the Boxster, Cayman, Cayenne, Panamera categories. Both Ferrari and Porsche have gone more "GT" and are pandering a bit more to the wealthy non-enthusiasts (biggest seller for Ferrari is the California, and Porsche makes all its money off the Cayenne/Panamera).

    Lamborghini is not the main competition. Up until very, very recently (last 15 years) they weren't considered drivers cars.

    McLaren is the other competitor but has far less resources and is a bit more niche than even Ferrari. Same goes for Pagani and Koenigsegg etc.

    When I was looking at cars it was primarily Porsche, Ferrari and Audi (R8). I think that is a very common cross-shopping grouping at the used car level $100-$200k range, and new car range $150-$350k range. McLaren too, of course.
     
  18. Phil~

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    Porsche has a higher win rate in racing and have much better engineering. Not surprising really.
     
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    +1 Porsche.
     
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    A Porsche guy used to say their competition was a boat, a plane, or a second home, etc.....I think that applies to Ferrari as well
     
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    from street car view I will say porsche. A lot of guys here drive porsche. Im sure there are plenty people that decided for a gt3 or 911 turbo for a ton less $ over a 458.
     
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    Aston Martin with Merc engines could be a real threat
     
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    Thank you, Brian. That's a very interesting (gut level) perspective.
     
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    And yet despite that, Ferrari is the bigger legend in motor racing!

    Ferrari is the one that generates the most passion!

    Ferrari is the one that everyone else goes racing to beat!
     
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    I am not so sure it is a total coincidence that they tend to stay out of each others sand box.
     

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