$17,000 for Clutch Kit & Transmission repair on 360 with 36,000 miles

Just want to be sure I am not overpaying. Does this seem too much?? Ferrari dealership pricing including Clutch Kit (parts) plus about $6,000 in Transmission parts (gearbox for those outside of US). Thanks for your help.

 

Where in S florida are you located?

 

Broward County

 

Cost will depend on the 'depth' of the work. Need a new flywheel? What transmission repairs are needed. I'm in SW Florida and have had tremendous service from Exoticmotors South. You could always call them for another estimate. Main dealers are not known for their frugality.

 

Kinda vague don't you think?

Define "Parts".

 

Quite a bit high. You can pick an entire parts kit up from Eurospares for almost half the price in parts alone. 11,000 for labor?

 

I hope that's not for a clutch, fly wheel and T/O bearing. Transmission repair, what does that mean? Synchos, gears, replace? F1 car? Then could be pump, etc. that could be costly. Definitely get parts itemized and would get another estimate.

 

What kind of a parts kit?

Does it include a ring and pinion? WTF do you know what is needed or what is included in the estimate yet you pronounce the estimate too high?

 

$9600 is the cost of the parts/labor for the F1 transmission-gearbox repair alone (a few bad synchros, bearings and gaskets that need replacing- about 30 total misc parts needed - including 1st and 2nd gear CPL synchornizer $1277, gearbox oil pump $971, bearing for diff, fork for 3rd and 4th gear cpl-$654, 3rd and 4th gear cpl synchornizer- $561, caged roller bearing $562, Bearing Bushing $435, Rolling bearing $260, and the list goes on with about 20 other parts ranging from $150 down to a few dollars).

Clutch kit is the remaining $6100 in costs (labor and parts). I know these car are costly to fix just want to be sure I am not getting totally screwed.

 

6100 for the clutch is a little high- should be 4-5k. I haven't had to replace internals on any F1 yet but also sounds a little high.

I would check out a good indi shop, as recommended above, you will most likely save a couple thousand- but some guys feel better about using a dealer. I'm not one of them.

 

Sounds pretty ball park correct for a dealer price. Remember they do have higher overhead so it costs more.

Quite a few special tools required to do a 360 gearbox and few independents have the correct tools or the experience using them. I have both but I am in the minority so your options may be limited.

 

I am actually one of those that would rather pay more to have the dealer responsible (they are giving a 2 year warranty on Transmission repair- unlmited mileage too). Doubtful you would get that from an independent. Also on a $17,000 repair to save $2,000 is not worth it to me.

 

Lots of independents do. Not really a good reason on it's own.

What you need to shop for is quality work and that is not assured by the sign on the front.

 

Agreed that quality independents are a great option, and up until about 4 years ago we had that here locally, however Ferrari got smart and bought their shop. On a project like this that requires taking the transmission out of the car to determine rebuild costs, how do you evaluate pricing for something this complicated as the transmission had to be dismanted before they could evaluate repair costs?

 

Give an estimate to make an estimate. No way but to take it apart.

 

I had mine in to a specialist last week for an opinion on my car. I wanted something checking on the box that I had mis-diagnosed.
I'm UK based and was estimated about 3 days labour to remove, strip, reassemble and re-install the F1 box. I'd also spoken to a second specialist who had given similar numbers.
Like yours, they would not be able to give a firm price until it was apart but as a guide it was about 25 hours labour plus parts if it was a straightforward issue.
In the end it was a non-issue.

The parts seem less expensive in the UK even with a strong dollar.

I hope this helps and good luck.......M

 

Excuse me. I did not mean to step on anyone's quote. I was just mentioning you can pick up the parts for a standard clutch change for a bit less. Obviously i do not know what is entailed into the repair. It was not stated at the point I responded. And if it was, than I mis read and I'm sorry to offend you.

 

That's OK we like to keep Brian sharp! Thanks!
BC, you make this place what it is....awesome!!

 

OK. Here is probably a dumb question. A computer matches revs. How can synchros wear out or otherwise go bad?

Dave

 

Only on downshifts and only for the purpose of making it reasonably smooth and less stressful on the clutch, not to save the transmission. In fact with 900 lbs of hydraulic pressure they tend to shift rather brutally and they do it hot or cold without any regard for any resistance that may be encountered as you or I might have. When they were announced I actually wrongly predicted they would much worse on syncros than they are. On average I see a higher percentage of syncro failures on F1 than on manual and on a very large majority of those gear oil was changed on schedule or less. Very few syncro problems on cars using good grade of oil with annual changes.

 

For a bit less than what? At that point all we knew was a total price for an as yet undescribed job and you declared it was too much money.

Make me curious what your background in the car business is. You seem to be able to determine the value of a job without knowing what the job is.

 

Sheezz that sounds like a bargin. In 1992-93 we diy'ers were seeing the beginnings of 348 gearbox blowups and $17K rebuild estimates in the early 90's!

 

Sorry for the confusion. I didn't mean to imply that he was being overcharged. I did not know the details of what was entailed. It was not posted till after I commented only with the intention of helping out. I believe it was mentioned to only the clutch pack at that point. I was only referring to the parts. If I had seen the later post which was after I posted, I wouldn't have even bothered to comment at all. I understand what you guys do is an art form as well. I'm not trying to take away from the massive amount of hours it takes to work on these cars. And to do it correctly.
The amount of work described in the later post is an incredible amount of work. I know anytime you get into the internals it's going to be time consuming and expensive.

Regardless, I'm not in the car business. Closest would be buying car parts and paying for services for the last 24 years. I'm sorry for offending you.

 

Thanks for all the feedback, I feel better now about spending the $$$. For most of us Ferrari's are more than just our cars, they are part of who we are............Looking forward to years more pleasure from my 360! Much appreciated. Mike

 

clutch cost is about right that is what I paid at Ferrari for a clutch replacement and throw-out bearing.