My thesis from my first post is this spec prototype series in Nasa is ambitious and will flop! 8 races with designs on being competitive will cost between $80 - 100k. This also assumes no major get offs w/ damage.
In what series does one not have no major stints???? I take it you have watched Indy Car lately.....and they are pro's........supposedly.
Oh let me also add that a comprehensive spares package and tools could tip in at $50k easily. First year to acquire car, spares and budget for 8 races...$250k. This is a joke of a series and will go they way of the Shelby can am. Time will tell.
Turbo, you know I watch the Indy cars. We all need to as we need to support open wheel in this country. I will be in long beach this weekend as well. Comment regarding crashing...as soon as the series becomes "pro racing" it is code for letting the crashing begin!!
Based on this thinking I would say the rule "wanna make a small fortune in racing? Start with a big one" applies!!!
I've seen NARRA come up a few times in this thread and I can tell you it's the way to go. I've ran the last two events with them and it's night and day difference between the hoonigans swapping paint with NASA and all the bs that goes with SCCA. the guys are great and respect everyone's cars and you can run what you want with essentially no rules. Meet the hp to wt and go race. Simple. Because of that you can build a simple car the way you want to be competitive and have fun but not get into an arms race.
there's a seemingly endless supply of people ready and willing to drop that type of coin (and more!) on a Porsche Cup car to go PCA/POC racing, or significantly more to go vintage racing in their "dream car" from their youth. hell, I've heard of six figure karting budgets with pretty regular frequency... so I don't think a year one cost of $250k and $75-100k after that is out of the realm of possibility.
Now there's a novel concept......living on a budget. Sounds like a fun series. Maybe there are some people in this world who can race without bringing global thermo nuclear cash to any one series. Might want to check this out. Do you have a link?
Nothing is out of the realm of possibility. The problem is and always will be .......who has the biggest ego and needs to deflate someone else's. Competition is a good thing. But when it becomes win at all cost regardless of damage done, you get the arms race until everyone is spent into oblivion. CART & IMSA GTP are prime examples. Spend 20 million to go win 3 million. Sooner or later you run out of sponsors willing to lay out that kinda coin.
once again you've missed my point. my point is, this NASA prototype isn't dead in the water based solely on costs, relative to other amateur club racing.
I see what you are saying now and completely agree. Guy has a point though but interest and orders could also equal this yet another stillborn project.
Not really. Our perspectives are different. I will ask these questions......tell me how you came up with the budget you speak of? Second....what is your goal in racing? What do you do and what are your intentions?
No question. Don't you think people are and have been looking at budgets and the value of the class. Makes for a hard call.
I'm on the east in the winter and west in the summer. My car stays with my team in the east during the summer and I fly to the races and I run GT2. There are a lot of vipers and vettes which is what makes it such a fun battle to figure out how to get around a car with 150 more hp than you. Like this from this past weekend https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cImDMEjpqI0
NARRA website posted in this thread. Prototype class is pretty good with lots of options. Check it out.
I was impressed with the latitude in the rules. You play within them and you can run up front. Based on the rules book.....a good option for a gentlemen racer. Nice change from SCCA.
