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  1. DeSoto

    DeSoto F1 Veteran

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    #51 DeSoto, May 7, 2015
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    China is the country with more executions in the world. Way more than Iran of course. They have lots of political prisoners too. They're cruising their war ships around Japan to let them know who is going to be the boss soon. Sometimes you Americans catch one of their spies in your country stealing military info. And yes, they sometimes had demonstrated and threw stones at the American embassy at Beijing.

    China is way more dangerous than some bearded guys burning flags but they don't get as much flak and have a F1 race. Because they're strong, buy lots of stuff and own US debt, of course.

    And still I'm not saying that there shouldn't be a race in China.
     
  2. blackbolt22

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    I can't believe an Iranian GP is even being discussed.
     
  3. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ

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    The US Navy sent ships to patrol the Baltic Sea, cruise the Mediteranean Sea oe exercise in the Black Sea; same difference.
     
  4. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ

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    We should have races everywhere.

    Sport is a good medium to release tensions between countries.

    Beside, motor racing is an excellent showcase of Western technology.
     
  5. DeSoto

    DeSoto F1 Veteran

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    Personally I don't agree. Sometimes the show can't go on as if nothing happened in the real world. Does anybody remember the South African GP?

    My point is that if we agree to have a race at China or Kazakhstan we're forced to allow races almost anywhere.
     
  6. patekswiss

    patekswiss Formula 3

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    Brilliant idea! Is this a CIA op? This will accomplish what the sanctions couldn't. A few years doing business with Bernie, and Iran will be bankrupt!
     
  7. TexasF355F1

    TexasF355F1 Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    Such a kumbiatic outlook, yet not how things are or will ever work.

    Example 1: soccer

    I'd love things like sports to bring things together, but then again I think rationally.
     
  8. spirot

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    Yes they voted him for president then for prime minister then again for president .... I mean he must just be the best politician in the world he never looses?


    Immigration legal or illegal is covered by law in the USA and in most other countries .... So if you happen to be living illegally then you have committed a crime .... What terrible tactics is the USA using?

    And in the USA citizens of each state have the right and responsibility to vote to either have or do away with the death penalty where it's legal does not mean it's a crime

    Btw having the death penalty does not mean that it's always easy to use
     
  9. spirot

    spirot F1 World Champ

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    The UK's policies in the past 200 years has been direct colonialism and commercial exploitation that ended with WWII because it could not simply pay to maintain its empire this includes its policies in the Middle East the ME was important as it was. Is the main trade route to India and oil needed at the end of the industrial revolution. We are neither better or worse than those that have come before we just now literally poses the ability to destroy the world that is why countries like Iran are so dangerous in today's world and need to evolve into non threatening societies. f-1 should only go to countries that play by the rules Russia is on the line as far as the rules go ...
     
  10. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ

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    A country that bases its policies on colonialism and exploitation is wrong.
    Colonialism in India and the Middle East was typical imperialism.


    Iran is not dangerous. Get that right ! Iran never attacked or invaded any country.
    I don't feel threatened by Iran, and I never heard anyone who was!


    Who write the rules? And how long for ?
     
  11. joker57676

    joker57676 Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Iran is not dangerous?

    Ok, you go. I'll stay home.



    Mark
     
  12. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ

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    I would consider Iran less dangerous for world peace than the USA.

    That's what I meant.
     
  13. spirot

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    Wow. with friends like this we.... Talk about the "special relationship" between the UK and USA. Sad you feel that way.
     
  14. ScuderiaRossa

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    +1 The US has been destabilizing governments for the last 100 years and more...
     
  15. spirot

    spirot F1 World Champ

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    really ? Cuba? who else have we ben destabilizing over the past 100 years?
     
  16. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ

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    You shouldn't assume that belonging to a country means endorsing everything it does.

    No more that I expect every US citizen to stand behind the decisions of the White House, you shouldn't think that every Brit supports Westminster's foreign policies. Many don't.

    My country had (and still has) a disastrous foreign policy, based on aggression, colonialism, imperialism, exploitation and intervention. The British Empire was probably the darkest period of our history.
     
  17. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ

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    You really want to know? You seem to have a poor knowledge of your history ...

    Try Columbia (amputated of territories to create the State of Panama), Iran,
    Nicaragua, El Salvador, Chile, Argentina, Bolivia, Honduras, Venezuela, Greece, Turkey, Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, as countries that have received unwanted US attention.
     
  18. islerodreaming

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    When I was a kid (70's under the Shah) I visited Tehran several times with my family - my father was doing a bit of business there and thought Iran was the second most beautiful place on earth after Iceland. The people were beautiful and friendly and in all likelihood still are. Everywhere has its issues from time to time - oppression of minorities is something we have all been guilty of but most countries have overcome that. Perhaps we need to reach out to Iran, be it with F1 or something else and reach an understanding.

    Would I go to a Grand Prix there? Don't know, but I sure felt safer among their people than I did in Moscow at the same time.

    John
     
  19. itschris

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    I've heard second hand that there are people who actually believe this sort of thing but always sort of dismissed it as "how could someone really feel that way". Now I've heard it first hand and while I'm tempted to simply chuckle quietly and shake my head, it actually causes me to understand with grave concern why things are the way they are and I wonder out loud how any individual could make a statement like that. I'm almost hoping you're just one of those guys who like to stir the pot... likes to say and take inflammatory things and positions just to feel edgy or contrary. I've come across people like that and I hope your just one of those and don't actually believe that.
     
  20. ScuderiaWithStickPlease

    ScuderiaWithStickPlease F1 World Champ

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    Post of the week, IMO.
     
  21. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ

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    I believe what I said, and I can back it up.

    Any country that enjoys hegemony is a danger to the others.
    Any country that enjoys hegemony feels justified in intervening anywhere.
    Any country that enjoys hegemony thinks the rest of the world should approve its actions.

    It was the same for the Roman Empire, the British Empire and now the USA.

    The notion of "exceptionalism" claimed in Washington, puts the US above international laws.
    That's very dangerous for the rest of the world.
     
  22. ScuderiaWithStickPlease

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    Please, please, please give Second Ave Deli's pastrami a shot next time, right in the middle of lunch time -- it may well change your life!
     
  23. Steve355F1

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    I wouldn't go, but I'm in favour of the idea.

    Sport is by far the best way to bring different people together.

    Religion constantly drives people apart, but sport can bring them together.
     
  24. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Sport with art is one of the best tools of diplomacy.
     
  25. Steve355F1

    Steve355F1 F1 World Champ
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    Agreed.
     

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