Paint condition from factory

There's more to tri layers than just good vs. bad and an additional layer of coloured paint. The main problem stems from the clear sprayed on top, and the issues with that, basically seems to be the same whether it is a two layer sprayed at the factory or tri layer sprayed at Zanasi. In a normal two layer paint job, you have a primer, a coloured base coat and then the clear. With the tri, you have the primer, the coloured base coat, then the layer adding the pearl/lighting effect or what ever, and then the clear. A corrected tri layer like Fuoco will still look very different from a "normal" two stage metallic red like Fiorano and have that colour changing effect as it's the second layer that adds the effect. It's not just about adding paint for depth of colpur etc. At least, that's how it has been explained to me.

 

I just ordered my fifth new Ferrari and will send it directly to Esoteric Auto Detail upon delivery. My two FFs were not too bad but needed improvement. Both California's were terrible, bad swirly and Esoteric made all four perfect. They also put on a paint coating that saves having to wax the car and really protects the paint. So, you not only get the swirls out but get a new coating as well.

I go to lots of car shows and almost everything is swirled to hell. It is sad that most 'car guys' don't realize that you can really have a car with zero swirls, and you can keep it that way with little effort but you do need to pay attention. I've followed Esoteric's cleaning methods very carefully and even after a couple years of daily driving the paint remains near perfect.

 

Yes, most problems are with the clear coat. And has been pointed out many times:
1. It should not happen.
2. It is correctable.

 

Thanks. I read both the F12 and 458 Spider threads. Good to see you got what you expected in the end. Your F12 in Silverstone looks amazing.

I am probably going to go for a Silverstone car or maybe Black. Obviously black will highlight poor paint event more so i guess i may be sending my car to Topaz as well!

 

Since I'm priviliged to have a close relationship with my dealership staff, I've often been there when new cars arrive straight from the factory.

The condition on the cars straight from the factory is awful. I don't know why they even bother to shine them there. The cars are always full of swirls, holograms etc. It looks like someone ran ran along the car with a machine. The condition of the paint it self is not poor, but the factory prep on it is horrid.

With that being said. Professional (private) detailers will always deliver a better result than what a dealer will provide you as a standard service, because the aforementioned have the time to do a spotless job. You are also paying a lot more for their service than the what it costs for the few hours the dealership gives their people.

 

I too agree that the paint should not be crap, but it is, and it will be, and it is always easily fixed, so it is no longer a big deal. I simply plan a visit to Esoteric Auto Detail with any new Ferrari I get, and I have one coming this fall. Its that or buy something with great paint ... like a Prius , gag me with a spoon.

 

What is most interesting is that Ferrari is fully aware of the complaints. Have they done anything? This thread answers that.

Why have they not fixed the issue? They don't have to, they sell every single car they produce!! As Rick said, by a Prius they have to be "perfect".

From my experience, 4 new Ferrari's, all needed a great detailer to get them to my expectations.

 

Yup! Esoteric will hook you up.

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If you're buying a Ferrari for the paint quality, stereo, or gas mileage then you're buying the wrong car.

 

Thank you!!!

The greatest sailor I ever knew used to tell me over and over again, "I've got the smallest, dirtiest boat in the harbor."

Sailors sail. Drivers drive.

 

dealer should have told you all the colour options - about $27k US for triple layer

 

Thx. I wouldn't have done it for that price. Wow, that's pricey. Going with $7k for a full wrap and it's guaranteed for over 5 yrs. I'll replace it at 3 or 4 yrs if it lasts. Went with Xpel Ultra self healing film. Great stuff.

 

Ferrari uses American paint (PPG). The Germans use German paint (BASF). You get what you pay for.

 

What does PPG being American have to do with anything here? Both BASF and PPG makes great products.

 

A couple of hundred? Isn't it more like 1000.00 to 1500.00.

 

I had Todd from Esoteric recently paint correct 4 of my Ferrari's and the results were outstanding. His before and after pictures tell the truth and when you look at the cost of the car and the fraction of expense it costs to have the paint corrected it's a NO brainer!

I am a BIG fan of Todd/Esoteric and intend to use them again!

 

If only.

 

Hi Wilding here just read so many feeds about paint, my Pista has white ghost mark like water being left on a counter and a small worm white mark any advice much appreciated