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  1. BJJ

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  2. LAEspada

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    Actually, that's incorrect, which is why you see new cars on multi-car transporters secured by the chassis and cinched down to the trailer. If you strap the wheels, then the body "floats" on the trailer, and for every action of the trailer, you get a 2x reaction by the car, which means the car's suspension works harder. Rough roads really give the towed car's shocks a workout. When we towed a '53 Ford down to Mexico for the 2002 La Carrera Panamericana inside a very nicely suspended 24' Pace American tandem-axle trailer, we had no easy way to secure the car's chassis to the trailer so we let it go with wheel straps. The Ford's shocks were working so hard that when we stopped to check it, the shocks were actually hot to the touch. We then worked a little harder to devise a means of securing the car so it wouldn't float. When I raced a Spec Miata, we had a shop weld U-shaped hooks onto the subframes for and aft so it was very easy to just hook on and ratchet the suspension down a bit so the body was secured against floating.

    Now, if you're only towing short distances and over relatively smooth roads, a wheel net is sufficient and preferable to a through-the-wheel strap as it leaves less marking (unless you have whitewalls, of course). I like U-Haul trailers for short tows--net over the tires, cinched to a ramp at the front. Just a safety chain in back to keep it from departing if all else fails. Easy peasey and very safe.
     
  3. LAEspada

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  4. thedoc

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    No sir there are 4 of us and don't want to slow the group down . We plan to go to Simone museum and other stuff while there so no car this year .
    Are u going to the concours.?

    Gary
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  5. thedoc

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    U see boys this pic is proof once again of just how incredibly cool Espadas look when directly compared to regular vehicles !!
    Love that pic !


    Gary
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  6. PSk

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    Interesting. I would imagine it is done that way with new cars to make it easy and therefore cost effective. In the end I'd rather give my shocks a work out than worry about tie downs working loose or stressing the body ...

    Everybody I know who races does it as I said. Much happier car but yes I contend that the shocks may work harder ... who cares! By the way my trailer did not have springs and shocks, just over spec'ed tyres so I could run them with low but sensible pressures to cushion the ride.
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  7. Peter K.

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    Guys, forego Greenwich and come to West Hartford on June 28. Greenwich is good but ours is better :)

    Actually they are both good shows. While ours is Italian only, Greenwich has a variety.
    Our is free, much bigger, wide open, and much better parking.
     
  8. mt_jt

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    Minus the truck 'n trailer, this photo would have been perfect!
     
  9. thedoc

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    Peter your show is and has been on the list for sometime now but we are 4 gearheads who travel together around the continent and this Greenwich has been on the list longer ...
    we will get there maybe next year ..

    Gary
     
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    #4010 Peter K., May 13, 2015
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    Looking forward to seeing you again, then.
     
  11. LAEspada

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    Well I care, a rebuild of an Espada's Koni cost $375 last time I did it. X4.

    No, it's easier to throw a net over the tire than it is to cinch down a car at four points on the chassis for shipping. Many cars are shipped with pucks on the control arms or in the coil overs that are pulled during the pre-delivery setup at the dealer. The cars are cinched down to the pucks so that effectively they have no suspension during shipping, they are monoblocks. Every once in awhile a tech forgets to take the pucks out and the owner returns screaming that the car's ride is terrible. Auto companies do it so they won't have warranty issues on shocks and suspensions due to shipment. Last year the top three car automakers in the world each built more than 10 million vehicles apiece. As with Koni shock rebuilds, it adds up...
     
  12. staatsof

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    I think so. not sure which day yet, how about you.

    May bring something Italian not the Espada though.
     
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    i secure my race car by the sub frames (F&R) which are quite robust as are the shocks. It never moves anywhere. I do think it depends upon the car and it's construction as well. But that white Espada was being secured horribly. Especially through the back wheels.

    LOL :D

    Imagine the poor slob who towed that thing and happened to have it photographed while in travel and NOW is being soundly critiqued on a worldwide basis ... Nope privacy is gone my friends.
     
  14. thedoc

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    both days possibly

    Gary
     
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    #4015 a57robert, May 17, 2015
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    Hello Everyone,
    Let’s stop talking and start firing up those engines!!!
    There is a show on the 6th of June (a Saturday)….The Steve McQueen Car Show. (Chino Hills, CA)
    I would love to see a small group of us there to show that Lamborghinis do exist and not just in magazines. (Or for $ale) ;)
    So far a few of us are going. Online deadline is May 22.

    https://stevemcqueencarshow.com/

    Call me so we can meet up before entering the show, that way we can park as a group.
    Regards to All,

    Bob Huber
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    PS The Espadas had a lot of fun at the Coronado show in San Diego. We meet a longtime friend of Bob Wallace and chatted for an hour or so. Great to meet new people at different shows!!!
    Let’s have some “drive time fun” on the 6th.
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    #4016 jefbuel, May 18, 2015
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    Prices keep rising, not too crazy about the color combo on this one though. It has new paint and a new interior, I would prefer the interior to be in one colour, red or black, not both.

    The Gallery Brummen
     
  17. staatsof

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    Looks like a US car that left here a bit ago and got a refresh?

    It's a bit tartish looking but one can fix the engine compartment issues easily enough?

    You are stuck with red & black unless you dye the red ... black on black!

    So $ 215,259 woo hoo!
     
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    #4018 kc023515, May 18, 2015
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    This one is #8818. I saw it last Saturday at the Gallery and agree that the red/black interior doesn't fit the car well. Special on this car is the power steering which is a rare option on the S2.
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  19. BJJ

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    The price appears somewhat high for an US spec. car in Europe. Would be interesting for how much it actually will sell.
     
  20. staatsof

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    As long as they repainted it why not put the European side markers on it? Not much else is all that different?
     
  21. BJJ

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    This would need a bit of welding also, since these US side markers are not just screwed onto the wings, but let in.

    A speedometer in miles and other instruments in non-metric units are neither favored over here. And replacement instruments (or rebuilding them with metric dials) will cost one or the other Euro as well.

    I am not sure about carburation (jets) and other emission issues.

    Finally such a "conversion" to European specs will also be considered as lowering the value ("non-original"), so it might not make sense in the end ... :D.
     
  22. Daryl

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    I sure wish I was closer to you guys. I'm stuck driving around here all by myself.
     
  23. staatsof

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    Filling in the holes while doing a paint job is not a big deal. My Espada was delivered in the USA and it has all of the European specifications sans the Kilometer speedometer.

    All the rest is easily adjusted for cars that do have some USA specific stuff until you get to the late 70's. Then the air pump and stuff is a pain but it can be done as well. They'll drive and look identical. Who in the world would be a stickler for originality when it comes to air pumps and other emissions stuff?

    Kilometers vs miles is a big deal?

    I'm at a loss as to why some people would think such minor items would constitute a "superiority"?

    Does it for Miuras of the same vintage?

    Countachs is whole other kettle of fish. IMHO Lamborghini DID deliver some ugly bumpers on some of the USA cars but I don't follow the Countach market very closely when it comes to that stuff. I know I'd take the USA bumpers off if I had the ugly ones on a Countach.
     
  24. staatsof

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    I know what you mean Daryl though I did visit the bunch back in March.

    How far is Lou from you?
     
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