How far behind is McLaren ?

Monaco. It's everything that's good about F1 and everything that's bad about F1.
Lately it's more the latter.

 

Perhaps he was referring to steering gears.

 

+1

 

McLaren would have scored points already at Spain if they didn´t have that silly problem with the blocked brake ducts so it´s not a Monaco thing.

Anyway, 8th it´s nothing to write home about.

 

I just wonder why this thread is still on? McLaren sucks this year. End of story.

 

Well to answer to OP, McLaren is halfway back in the field now, NOT in the back like at the beginning of the season.

 

They're making progress. Could be in the top ten consistently soon!

 

Eighth would have been an improvement for more than half the field.

 

Mclaren are still at the back of the field. In Spain they finished 16th and 17th. The only reason they did well in Monaco is because the car was not as important.

Come Canada they will be closer to the back of the grid again. Also we must consider reliability, the Honda PU is probably worse than the renault. It even breaks during qualifying. That car won't last long with the amount of stress that Canada has on the cars. It will fall apart by lap 20.

 

Yup.
Then again, glamour ain't what it used to be.

If the real turbos could race there I'm not too worried about overpowering the circuit.


If hockenheim threw up a bunch of chicanes, invited the Kardashians and declared itself a principality there'd be a German GP this year.

 

+1 and glamour itself is a personal taste. Id like to see Monaco dashed and keep Monza. Monaco off the calendar is no loss for my taste in 'glamour' or my desire for real racing. As I stated yesterday in the race thread, I made more passes on the Autobahn out for my weekend fun drive than are made in glamour town in 5 years.

 

F1 when you boil it down is entertainment.
Monaco entertains.

I also like it for the challenge it presents.

 

The spectacle of Monaco is what attracts a lot of sponsors to the sport. It's not going anywhere.
No matter how poor a racing venue.

 

Latest BBC take on Mclaren in Canada - BBC Sport - Canadian GP: Do McLaren really look like 'amateurs'

 

Honda will pull the plug on this train wreck late next year . Honda has only done any good in f1 is a small window in the late 80s in t hat time Noone was putting money into f1. They is no way if another big manufacturer came in they won't get the back row .

 

Just to play devil's advocate, Canada is not the easiest track for engines, and their DNFs was caused by exhaust problems, so probably it's an easy fix. They'd said something about big updates for Austria and Silverstone, so I'd give them a pair of races more before declaring it a total loss.

 

Mclaren/Cosworth?

 

There is now a real risk that both Honda and Renault will pull the plug. That would be a disaster for the sport, but an ever increasing possibility.

 

I hope they have a new motor on the test stand already as they sort this one out. This can not go on for 2 or 3 more races. No driver can stomach an endless display such as this.

I would think the Honda Board are very much focusing on this as it impacts them globally via the media sources.

 

Honda are getting beaten much everywhere this year.

 

I think it is nice that you are giving McLaren the benefit of the doubt, but exhaust failure or something else, this is inexcusable for racing at this level after nearly two years of development/racing.
As a McLaren street car owner I find it extremely embarrassing and totally unprofessional

 

No wonder, even Mr Bean can't stand the embarrassment

Rowan Atkinson sells his £8million McLaren F1 supercar | Daily Mail Online

We should start calling it McLorean. It'll probably fold up in the same miserable way