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  1. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    If he could figure out the tires (he can't get the temp up properly for quali runs) then he'd qualify better.

    For the same reason, in the opening 2 laps he's normally a bit sluggish...no proper temp in the tires yet and he's been known to lose a position or 2 (even if he's made them up at the start). As soon as he has proper temperature he's fire.
     
  2. JJ

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    Today should pretty much seal Kimi's fate as far as Ferrari goes. All questions are answered.
     
  3. NeuroBeaker

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    Well, David Coulthard seemed puzzled that it should have been lost so late in the corner when it was under control earlier on. He sounded convinced that there was more to find out from the team about kinetic energy delivery. It'll be interesting to see if anything else comes to light that'll explain it beyond the thinking that it was driver error.

    All the best,
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  4. VIZSLA

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    Same driver, same corner, same circumstances, same mistake, different car.
     
  5. william

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    There are several "modes" of ERS the driver can choose from. Kimi may have chosen a different setting and got caught when the power came suddenly.
    These cars are stuffed of electronic systems, and not all of them finelly tuned.
     
  6. Igor Ound

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    I would still keep kimi for next year.
     
  7. VIZSLA

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    Fine by me.
    As long as you keep him out of a Ferrari.
    :D
     
  8. Igor Ound

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    Do you fancy him in the Haas?
     
  9. Rosso Veloce

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    I'd like to see Ricciardo replace Kimi next year, if Seb would let that happen.
     
  10. VIZSLA

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    Nope.

    I'd like to see Haas start off with young blood.

    Sad to say but Lotus was his best fit. Other than the not being paid part.
     
  11. Igor Ound

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    That's probably where Ferrari's mistake is. Anyway, he seems to be a really sensitive driver and his cars sooner or later end up being competitive with his input.
     
  12. VIZSLA

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    I agree.
    When it comes to Kimi, Ferrari's biggest mistake is paying him.
    ;)
     
  13. singletrack

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    I would like to see that also, but if Haas really wants to tune the car, he needs someone experienced don't you think? Less he rely solely on Ferrari for guidance, which would seem a poor idea.

    Although he did say that they are essentially going to put as many Ferrari parts on the cars as is allowed, and only build/design what is required for next year. Sounds like a good fit for customer cars eh? Hmmmmm... ; )
     
  14. VIZSLA

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    They're no longer called customer cars. As of this week its now franchise teams. ;)

    The old hand at the new team has been the model for years but given the reduction in testing and the role of simulation I'm not sure that its still the way to go. Better to bring on young talent with desire not agendas.
    Haas isn't new at racing and will have their own staff. I don't seeing them being snowed under by Maranello.
     
  15. PhilNotHill

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    So true.

    Do we start a Kimi Sucks thread now?
     
  16. rmani

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    Pretty sure that thread already exists
     
  17. Bas

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    Interesting that he shared the same views as me...:)
     
  18. DF1

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    Di-Resta says - Paul Di Resta explained to Simon Lazenby: “When you come out of the pits, you have to activated the start mode… [the mode you use] for the start of the race now that restricts the throttle movement.

    “When you go into the start mode, the throttle becomes different, because they need to change it for the ‘wait phase’… which is what they call the high revs.

    And when you go out the pit lane, that is then set for about a minute, a minute and a half, and that’s probably what caught him out. Its not the normal throttle pedal because it’s all electronic these days”.
     
  19. toil

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    Happy to explain away Kimi spinning all by himself in a corner as not his fault but thinks Lewis is to blame for his team calling him into the pits in Monaco. You never fail to crack me up.
     
  20. singletrack

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    LOL! Ok then...this is much better ; )

    The sims are getting amazing for sure, but I think they are still limited in really refining the car to ultimate form. Besides, let's assume they are very accurate; that doesn't mean that a young driver will be as adept at providing the correct feedback as a more experienced driver.

    I certainly was not suggesting Haas will be snowed under; I have a lot of respect for him and his team. But a lot of people here have no idea what he has done in racing. I just got the impression that he wanted to get to F1 racing, and he feels using as many Ferrari parts as possible gets him competitive more quickly.
     
  21. JJ

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    Everyone else somehow managed to defeat the mystical throttle demon.
     
  22. Bas

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    Because not everyone else drives A ferrari...
     
  23. Bas

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    Seems like that is what happened.

    Read my bloody posts. I've quite clearly said both Merc and Lewlew where to blame. Stop twisting words to suit your ****ing argument. Grow the **** up!
     
  24. Aircon

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    ^^^lol...that one post was enough to make me realise that other people were right....you simply ARE a troll....because Bas has never said Lewis was to blame.
     
  25. singletrack

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    Highly recommend ignore function. Thanks Ian for the recommendation ; )
     

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