Merc considering letting others catch up ?

Yes don't let facts get in the way of good argument...think believe what you like, like I care...you'd know all about butt hurt, being a Mosley lover .

 

The hell? What makes you think I'm a "Mosley lover?"

Bizarre post.

 

Seems to be the thing for some to do today.

 

Ole Krafty is clearly still struggling with those Ferrari domination years. They must have been hard on him. Funny that now he defends Merc so hard, the hypocrisy is funny

 

Here for starters, I'll give you a clue...yes the Merc situation is totally different, AFAIK they haven't had the power to veto any rule changes..

Ferrari has a veto over any change to F1's regulations and it added that Max Mosley, former president of motor sport's governing body the Fédération Internationale de l'Automobile (FIA), awarded the privilege to the team in 2005 to prevent it leaving. It certainly wasn't the first time that this kind of rumour has been reported but it may well be the last because evidence has come to light which at last proves that Ferrari does indeed have a veto.

I struggle with nothing.....

If you want to make and set yourself up to look like a fool with Aircon, be my guest.

 

Uhuh

 

Maybe Ferrari has a veto, but so far they´ve been smart enough (or naive maybe) to not use it. If not, they would had vetoed many things we´re suffering now.

 

Iirc Merc even has a seat on the f1 board!!

 

You mean 2005, the season where the FIA changed the rules to stop Ferrari from dominating?

Lol...

 

No, it was the british press and the british fans, tired off getting theyr asses flogged.....

 

Ferrari has a veto over any change to F1's regulations and it added that Max Mosley, former president of motor sport's governing body the Fédération Internationale de l'Automobile (FIA), awarded the privilege to the team in 2005 to prevent it leaving. It certainly wasn't the first time that this kind of rumour has been reported but it may well be the last because evidence has come to light which at last proves that Ferrari does indeed have a veto.

Sorry Steve but this isn't correct, Ferrari had the veto long before that, what happened at the end of 2004 was a very diferent thing....Ferrari estimated that the f2004 still had a good margin to develop (more than 20% i was told), and 2005 would be another sweap for Shummi, Bernie and Max wanted some fight so they convinced Luca to park the f2004 and let them change the rules, they basicly paied (i heard something around 100 milion) so that Ferrari would give the others a chance...Luca took the money because he was convinced Ferrari could still build a new competitive car under the new rules..he was wrong (he would later make the same mistake when he took Santander's money to accept Alonso), so basicly, Ferrari was paied to let renault win....

 

Seems genuine to me. Wolff is a smart man and allowing in-season development will let others catch up but Merc will be able to make advances as well. I'm sure Merc is confident they can continue to innovate and lead. If they win with more open regulation, then it is even more impressive.

I think you also have to consider how annoying it must be for Merc. People are always going to give them credit for developing an amazing PU and car, but those same people will also wonder what would have happened if real, in-season testing and development was allowed. You don't want your championships tainted with politics and regulation if you can help it. Plus with 2 championships under their belt now, they have some return on their hard work and can perhaps assume a little more risk.

It's the same deal you see in other sports - boxing is a good example. A lot of great champions out there whose legacy is somewhat debated because people argue about the quality of the competition.

Let's not forget no German GP this year either...really sucks to come back to F1, dominate, and not even have a home GP. Maybe more excitement makes the German GP happen.

 

How do you know that.? If they are in on making the decisions...at the time.

What gets me is the likes of Tif USA, they claim I only see what I want to see now, yet they do precisely the same thing wearing Rossa blinkers..when I prove for a fact the FIA helped Ferrar when MS was in his heyday..hypocrisy of the highest order..

I see it for what it is, if you don't like don't read it ....

 

They had a veto for over a decade, and as far as I know they still have...

It all went tits up when Ferrari threw their hat in with FOTA.

 

Agree, whinging was unbearable. Coulthard stating that "200X is going to be my year, I will beat MS" was laughable. The other teams could have caught up thru unlimited testing but failed to. MB's insistence on rev limitations was because their motors blew up whereas Ferrari's and BMW's didn't.

BTW, I didn't care for Ferrari's dominance back then either.

BTW, if F1 is too expensive, then stay home. no one wants you.

 

The only reason for Dennis to keep D.C at Mclaren was to use him to ram Shummy from time to time.....

 

They could have vetoed the testing ban, or the blown diffuser after Silverstone 2011, it could have been a game changer for them, and still didn´t. I´m not saying that they´re gentlemen, this is a political game and now probably someone owes them a favour.

Let´s not talk about Mercedes´ free tyre testing, or the preferential treatment they had in the writting of the rules that Bernie said they had. Everybody plays politics, not just Ferrari.

 

+1 its a 'big boys' game and always has been. Fair it is not lol!

 

IIRC all the teams kicked off about Brawns loop hole, yet again Mosley's show fixing came into play, the Aussie GP had started and yet it still wasn't clear whether the car was legal or not.

As the season progressed Button hung onto his advantage as the others slowly crept up on him, lots stated on here he would bottle it, but proved them wrong with a tremendous drive in Brazil to clinch it ....that's if my memory serves me right.

 

So bitter

 

Huh about what...? are you serious, you are starting to worry me, do get half price when you visit a mind reader...

 

You´re talking about the double deck diffuser while I was refering to the exhaust blown diffuser.

Anyway, Ferrari didn´t use their veto power that time either and proves that FIA is not always eager to assist Ferrari.

 

Aha ..makes no odds anyway, if you fell out of bed with that twisting rat Mosley, he would sink your ship ask Flavio.

 

I do gloss over most of your posts, especially when LH is involved because they are fanboy tripe.

All excellent points.

 

Sorry but Flavio screwd himself when he decided to rigg a certain race.....if it was me, i would do everything to put him in jail for that stunt...he got off easy if you ask me...