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  1. carguy246

    carguy246 Formula 3
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    I'm no expert, but my understanding is that the SDP cars did NOT have an S clutch. In fact, even the first few S cars did not have an S clutch. Others will correct me if I am wrong.
     
  2. Vanquish80

    Vanquish80 Formula Junior

    Aug 1, 2011
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    No clutch upgrade included in SDP.


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  3. sherrillt

    sherrillt Formula 3
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    Correct - cars evolved during the production run. The only constant was increased HP, better breaks, and better steering
     
  4. Countachqv

    Countachqv Formula 3

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    A guy named Fabio in New Jersey bought the Aston racing green from Naples. An amazingly clean car from the pict. I hope he will chime in here. this is such a nice looking car.check it out on the naple motorsport sold page
     
  5. 6Speed 430

    6Speed 430 Karting

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    I bit of a stupid question, but in my Vanquish when I come to a red light when I get to a full stop I've been putting the car in neutral then selecting first as the light turns green. I was told leaving the car in first with your foot on the brake for an extended period of time burns clutch, is there any truth to this?
     
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  6. carguy246

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    I just noticed that the Green car was sold as well. I bought the dark grey car with light tan that Naples had for sale at about the same time. Car is great so far.
     
  7. Countachqv

    Countachqv Formula 3

    Apr 25, 2007
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    Naple has got good reputation from what i heard. They dont sell junk. it took some time to sell what appeared to be a great car but sometimes on the internet things are not what they seems to be . Did you see that car? if so, what did you think of it and curious to know hat made you select the other one.
     
  8. Countachqv

    Countachqv Formula 3

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    the concensus seem to be that it does not really matters as long as you levae the accelerator alone. i do the same just by habit from manuals.
     
  9. sherrillt

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    I've never done it. No where in the owners manual is this mentioned and the the car does not do it in ASM mode, so why should you. A clutch is a friction plate...how does it wear if nothing is moving?
     
  10. carguy246

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    No sorry I did not see the Green car as I bought my car sight unseen although I did have it checked out by the local Aston dealer. I selected the grey car primarily because it has the back seat option and my kids are still small enough to ride in the back. My car also is a 2003 with slightly lower miles than the green car which was, I think, a 2002.
     
  11. DWR46

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    Sherrillt: I will try to explain what I believe the concern is. I hope this is clear enough. Think of a standard manual gearbox car. If you are setting at a stop light in 1st gear with the clutch pedal on the floor, the driven disc is not moving as it is part of the gearbox input shaft and the gearbox is in gear. The pressure plate attached to the flywheel is moving at engine rpm. As long as the clutch is adjusted and installed correctly, the "air gap" between the disc and the pressure plate will be adequate to make sure their is no "drag" between the two items.

    If the gearbox is placed in neutral, the disc is free to either stand still (with adequate air gap) or to spin freely if there is some slight clutch drag.

    If there is ANY contact between the pressure plate spinning at engine rpm and the disc which is stopped (if the gearbox is in gear), this friction, no matter how slight will cause heat and eventually wear to the disc.

    In reality, most clutches have a slight amount of "drag" when the pedal is pushed all the way to the floor. When cars had non-synchro gearboxes, this caused the "crunch" when you went from neutral to 1st or Reverse. Today with modern synchros, you cannot feel the synchros stop the spinning disc as you select 1st or Reverse.

    While I am not sure if the Aston gearbox computer ever lets the clutch out when in neutral, it would always be safer to be in neutral when stopped to make sure you are not causing any clutch drag and the associated heat and wear.

    I hope the above helps clarify the potential situation.
     
  12. Countachqv

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    makes sense to me but again if the car has been looked over regularly should be ok.

    In theses cases it is like believing in God, if in doubt, just beleive. The worst that can happen to you is to go to paradise! :)
     
  13. sherrillt

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    I'm not worried about. I've owned it for awhile and haven't had a problem.
     
  14. ArmenVanquishS

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  17. ArmenVanquishS

    ArmenVanquishS Formula Junior

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  18. of2worlds

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    Lots of interesting details in the listing>

    We are Delighted to be offering this Stunning Modern Classic 2005 Aston Martin Vanquish S Finished in Silver with Stunning Soft Black Leather. Building on the sales success of the original Vanquish the Vanquish S featured an increase in engine power (up from 460bhp to 520bhp) and Revised Gear and Back Axle Ratios. Top speed was quoted as being in excess of 200mph, making it one of the fastest Aston Martin road cars built at Newport Pagnell.

    Developed from the 1998 Project Vantage concept car, the V12 Vanquish entered production in 2001. The Vanquish marked a large step in the Company’s Engineering featuring a Bonded Aluminum chassis combined with many pieces of traditional craftsmanship ushering in a new era for Aston Martin.

    V12 Vanquish featured a body tub made from extruded Aluminum and Carbon Fiber with extensive use of more Carbon Fiber and composite materials throughout the crash structure of the car. This extremely rigid and safe body-shell was then clothed in hand-finished, Superformed Aluminum panels. Underneath the handmade bonnet sat a 460bhp version of the Aston Martin V12 engine, delivering its power via a 6-speed manual gearbox controlled by an Electro-hydraulic paddle shift gear change.

    The exterior panels were still lovingly hand finished in the factory panel shop from ‘Superformed’ Aluminum. Discreet changes to the ‘S’ included a Bigger, Revised Grille, Front Splitter and a Raised Rear ‘spoiler’ built into the Trunk Lid to keep the Car stable at High Speed. Inside the Vanquish S showed what could be achieved with beautiful Hand Stitched Leather. The Dashboard and many of the smaller Interior Pieces were now Trimmed in Hide adding to the Bespoke feel of the already impressive 2+2 cabin.

    This car benefits from a Brand New Service where all 12 of the Coil Packs were Changed Over, Also the Car Benefits From 4 Brand New Michelin Pilot Super Sport Tires Which Were Fitted. This Aston Martin Vanquish S is a Real Gem of a Car and Needs nothing but a New Home. Only 1086 Vanquish S Were Ever Built.

    Engine:V12, 5935 cc, 520 bhp @ 7000 rpm 425 lbs-ft @ 5800 rpm, Transmission:6-speed manual gearbox with Auto Shift Manual/Select Shift Manual, (ASM/SSM) electro-hydraulic control system, Brakes:Front and Rear Ventilated Discs Dimensions (LxWxH):4665 x 1923 x 1318 mm Weight:1875 kg, Top Speed:200+ mph 0 – 60 mph 4.8 sec.
     
  19. ArmenVanquishS

    ArmenVanquishS Formula Junior

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    Rare to see a description of the Vanquish in a advert.
    Most of the time, car dealers or even private sellers don't even care to describe a bit the Vanquish, about the history of the model, the production numbers, the fact that it is the last Aston of Newport Pagnell etc... a shame because I think the Vanquish is not well-known in the United States.
     
  20. Vanquish80

    Vanquish80 Formula Junior

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    Most of the sellers don't even know the gearbox type....


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  21. ferraripete

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    why do all the cars seemingly need 12 new coil packs after such few miles driven? I was told they were quite pricey to replace at the dealer. is there a cheaper way or a part number cross reference for a ford or jag?
     
  22. ArmenVanquishS

    ArmenVanquishS Formula Junior

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    @Björn : for sure ;)

    @ferraripete : that only concerns early Vanquish and 2005 Vanquish S

    2006/2007 Vanquish S had much stronger coils, that you should replace around 80 000 km (50 000 miles)
     
  23. Countachqv

    Countachqv Formula 3

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    this is one of the 2 main issues for the non S. I think the cost is 10-15K. they were flawed. This is why the non S as a bad rep. If buying one, that price must be accounted in the car.

    The other big expenses is the clutch sensor. If issues are ignored over time, it can take out your clutch. Bills of $20-$25K and over for this is not unheared of.

    So a car that has not gone thru these 2 things will likely be discounted by ~$35K. hence you see non S going for $50K Kand others for 70K-80K.

    What you dont want to get is a non fixed going for 80K+...

    this is well know in the Vanqu community but just like the Maserati Merak vs. merak SS and the timing chain => engine destruction, confusion reigns for the unaware and hits the value.
     
  24. ArmenVanquishS

    ArmenVanquishS Formula Junior

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    In France, here are prices for the operations including labor at Aston Martin dealer :

    - Coils + Spark plugs : 3500 € = $3850
    - Full brakes and pads : 5000 € = $5500
    - Complete Clutch : circa 7000 € = $7685

    Pat, are you sure about the prices you're mentioning ?
    If yes, then service costs are much more expensive in the United States than Europe !!!
     
  25. Countachqv

    Countachqv Formula 3

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    I got them from bills posted on cars for sales. Look at the blue one from NJ for sale, on the clutch. issue is that when someone "gets in there" there is always something else to fix preventivly "while doing that".
    Brakes for non S are around $6.5K. All thoses are dealer price and prbably may vary from dealer to dealer here.

    EDIt: hummm. may be that explains why so much cheaper cars here...
     

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