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SCUD pricing guide

Discussion in '360/430' started by RichardCH, Aug 18, 2011.

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  1. singletrack

    singletrack F1 Veteran

    Mar 16, 2011
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    I don't get the negative comments. Car looks to be in awesome shape inside and out. I like the stripe also.
     
  2. RonnieRenaldi

    RonnieRenaldi F1 Rookie

    Aug 16, 2004
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    If I'm getting a Scud, I'll be OK with 20K-plus miles as long as it passes PPI.
     
  3. singletrack

    singletrack F1 Veteran

    Mar 16, 2011
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    Miles are not abuse, it's love when done properly.
     
  4. f355spider

    f355spider F1 World Champ
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    May 29, 2001
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    ;) lol
     
  5. scuderia09

    scuderia09 Formula 3
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    that value is very low should be in 250k range
     
  6. MaranelloDave

    MaranelloDave Formula 3

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    As further proof of scud appreciation, when I got mine a little over 1.5 years ago, the "agreed value" my insurance company placed on the car was just over $200k. I just called them this week about something else and, before I got off the phone, I asked them what the agreed value is now. They said $250k. That's a big jump in less than 2 years.
     
  7. tikitiki

    tikitiki Formula 3
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    Aug 31, 2014
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    I called on this car a few months ago. The car was originally put on the market for 196, There were no pics on their site just a description. I had a salesman email me pics. A few hours after I called the price was increased to 222 on their site. I sent an email and the same guy said they felt it was underpriced but would sell me the car for the 196. The next day I called and they had taken it down from the site and said the car was not for sale. Their explanation was the car had a rear main seal leak and needed wipers and this would take several weeks. I called and told the salesman that I wanted the car and he quoted me a price of 238. I reminded him we agreed on 196 but he refused to honor the deal. I bought my 458 and two days later it was back on their site at this price. Basically they just held the car until they thought they could get more money. It's their car and they can charge what they want but I'm not going to be their sucker. Honestly the provided me the worst customer service I have ever received in my life.
     
  8. MaranelloDave

    MaranelloDave Formula 3

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    Wow, each time you ask for the price it rises another $10k. Interesting strategy!

    I also found that Ferrari dealers don't exactly bend over backwards for their potential customers. I guess they know there's a strong market and don't feel the need to provide great customer service on the sales side. What surprised me the most is how unresponsive they were, even after I expressed interest a car. Maybe they get a lot of "tire kickers."
     
  9. roma1280

    roma1280 F1 Rookie
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    I don't know anything about this car, but just by looking at the pictures this yellow scud with 13,000 miles looks cheap at $175k no?

    Ferrari 430 Scuderia | eBay
     
  10. AlgaeHater

    AlgaeHater Formula Junior

    Sep 22, 2004
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    No US carbon package. Also missing carbon front splitter?
     
  11. MaranelloDave

    MaranelloDave Formula 3

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    Good eye on the front splitter. Strange that it is gone. Maybe destroyed on a curb and never replaced?
     
  12. bart12

    bart12 Formula 3

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    Alot a people would like a SCUD to be in their garage. Not too many being sold, and it will get less and less. I was lucky to get mine 2 years ago.

    I have no plans of selling. Its a dream everytime I drive it.
     
  13. bart12

    bart12 Formula 3

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    Somebody needs to watch out for yellow scuds with gray stripes. There is yellow scud with gray stripes that went underneath a school bus and was fixed. A lambo dealer tried to sell it to me and did not know it went under. I showed him the pics as it was in the internet.
     
  14. HKE46Boy

    HKE46Boy Formula Junior

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  15. scuderia09

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  16. Knightrider

    Knightrider Formula Junior

    Jun 4, 2013
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    +1. So glad I made the decision for a Scud over a 430 spider. I don't think I'll ever sell my Scud! At this point I could trade it straight up for a 458, but there's a reason I chose the Scud in the first place.
     
  17. plastique999

    plastique999 F1 Veteran
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    +2. So glad I traded my 430 spider for the 16M ;). I'll be keeping mine and the newer Ferrari's don't excite me.


    Sent from my 16M
     
  18. tikitiki

    tikitiki Formula 3
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    Lol. They kept raising it after we agreed on a price. No worries though. I love my 458 and my local dealership treated me well.
     
  19. RichardCH

    RichardCH F1 Rookie
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    Big miles SCUD will have less value long term
     
  20. MaranelloDave

    MaranelloDave Formula 3

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    I don't know if that's true. Miles matter less and less as time goes buy. Buyers don't care if a 50 year old Ferrari has over 40k miles.
     
  21. Knightrider

    Knightrider Formula Junior

    Jun 4, 2013
    432
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    What's your definition of "big miles"? I know a Ferrari owner that can't stand having over 5K miles on his (which I think is ridiculous).
     
  22. redcaruser

    redcaruser Formula 3

    Apr 8, 2012
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    You have to read this!

    Thread "[430] Are 430 Scuderia asking prices really going up?"
    My post from 11-14-2014, 05:15 PM:

    Swiss Scud market observation from today, nine months later:
    The offer was never so small as today (actual 5 Scuds, one 16M and one Scud with a fire damage), the price range has been wider (range between the cheapest and the most expensive car) and has moved up significantly (cheapest one with CHF 168'500.-, the most expensive one with CHF 299'900.-, in the average the market moved up about approx. CHF 140k), the average mileage is stable (between 2'400km (at the same time the most expensive car) and 53'000km (not the cheapest one!)) and is always at about 20k kilometers.

    From the Speciale are actual 6 cars in the market, the same number as the Scuderia (nine months ago there were twice as many Scuderia).

    Crazy how quickly the market situation can change!
     
  23. MaranelloDave

    MaranelloDave Formula 3

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    It seems like this is how the market moves. All of a sudden the market deems a car collectible, or soon-to-be-collectible, and it's like flipping a switch. This appears to have happened for the scud. Just glad I bought when I did.
     
  24. sherpa23

    sherpa23 F1 World Champ
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    Well I guess that depends on how you define value. Is value defined as the joy of ownership and driving or is it the money that you get when you sell it. If you love the car so much that you would never sell, the monetary value is meaningless. If you're always looking for the latest and greatest, then you don't get attached to the car anyways so it's only the money that matters.
     
  25. 996cupracer

    996cupracer Karting

    Jan 12, 2006
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    Westport, CT
    It's about value and driving excitement. The Scud has that in spades and is still undervalued compared to a Speciale. The prices of these cars have crept up to what was previously super car territory and is out of range for most enthusiasts. The scud had fallen to silly levels (affordable) but is now catching up as the market is speaking. It is just the normal Ferrari cycle for limited edition models occurring:
    1. Car introduced and sells for list or over.
    2. Car holds value through selling cycle and begins to drop slightly towards the end of selling cycle.
    3. New car introduced and selling for $100k more than old car when new. Owners sell old cars to buy latest and greatest negatively affecting price/supply ratio.
    4. Old car prices drop to levels that don't make sense when value, fun, price are compared to what is out there new as market struggles to absorb inventory in an extremely small market...as a pink sheet stock would .
    5. Old car prices begin to creep up and the consensus changes from "old car" to "really cool car" and "they don't make em like that anymore".
    To the best of my knowledge, this cycle has happened in a variety of variations to the CS, F40, 288 GTO, Scud and Enzo.
     

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