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  1. NeuroBeaker

    NeuroBeaker Advising Moderator
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    Michael Schumacher
    (Mika Hakkinen or Kimi Raikkonen)
    F2004
    Jean Todt (with Ross Brawn)

    While some might be surprised about the Raikkonen pick, I think he really suited the old Formula before the engines became turbo hybrids with KERS. He's an old school driver and the F2004 was an old school car.

    All the best,
    Andrew.
     
  2. ricksb

    ricksb F1 Veteran

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    One was quiet and brilliantly consistent on the limit.

    The other was outspoken and surly but brilliant driving OVER the limit.

    Great drivers, both

    I like the pairing with Colin Chapman too...one of the greatest innovators of F1 (though this resulted in fatalities too often).

    I'd take the F2002 as my car though.
     
  3. tervuren

    tervuren Formula 3

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    I do not understand picking a car, perhaps a designer, but not a car.
     
  4. Kiwi Nick

    Kiwi Nick Formula 3

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    Chapman too often designed over the limit. But, there is no doubting his genius and his impact on the sport.
     
  5. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Drivers: Alain Prost and Mika Hakkinen.

    Manager: Flavio Briatore.
     
  6. IamRobG

    IamRobG F1 Rookie

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    For ****s an giggles I'd like to see

    Vettel
    Hamilton

    Tyrell P34

    Enzo

    Basically I'd like to see anyone drive that P34
     
  7. toil

    toil F1 Rookie
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    Schumacher


    2014 merc
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  8. toil

    toil F1 Rookie
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    Actually 2014 merc sounds like ****. Put them in 04 Ferrari then
     
  9. spirot

    spirot F1 World Champ

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    Chapman was the limit.... i think had he lived ( and stayed out of prison ) he would have moved into aero space more than cars. F-1 was pissing him off with outlawing his designs... twin chassis, ground effects ( skirting ) etc... he did not like the whole Turbo route ... but i suspect that he would have come up with some awsome designes with active suspension ... I have no doubt that Lotus with Chapman and Senna would have beaten Prost and McLaren and Williams in 85 - 86 - 87 ...
     
  10. Fast_ian

    Fast_ian Two Time F1 World Champ

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    +1

    IIRC, Ayrton was the *only* guy Colin ever put as an "equal" to Jimmy.

    He liked & had immense respect for Mario, but never the "love" he had for the first two.

    Cheers,
    Ian
     
  11. nerofer

    nerofer F1 World Champ

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    I'm not sure to follow you on that one, Ian?
    I mean, how could this have been chronologically possible: Ayrton was driving in Formula Ford 2000 in 1982, and ACBC died on Dec 16th, 1982.
    Even if Anthony Colin Bruce Chapman could have spotted Ayrton's early talent, he would surely not have put him on par with Jimmy Clark at that stage, Ayrton having not even had a test in a Formula One yet?

    Rgds
     
  12. classic308

    classic308 F1 Veteran

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    Agree re Clark and the excellent 72 but Michael Andretti? ;)
     
  13. classic308

    classic308 F1 Veteran

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    nice to see that i'm not the only 312 T3 fan...
     
  14. Fast_ian

    Fast_ian Two Time F1 World Champ

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    I obviously do not recall correctly!....... My bad, you're right.

    Who am I thinking of? [I do recall him only putting only one guy on a par with Jimmy, but am obviously mistaken in that it was Ayrton. Can't for the life of me think who though.]

    Cheers,
    Ian
     
  15. Fast_ian

    Fast_ian Two Time F1 World Champ

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    :p ;)

    Cheers,
    Ian
     
  16. furoni

    furoni F1 World Champ

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    I like the car too, the most beautifyll of the "T" series....but the least successfull one...although i believe the problem was more to do with the michelin tires than the chassis itself...
     
  17. nerofer

    nerofer F1 World Champ

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    At Jimmy's funeral, his mother told Dan Gurney that he was the only one that Jimmy feared.
    To which Gurney usually answered later, when reminded of this: "perhaps...but it surely didn't feel so at the time!" Great guy, that Dan Gurney.

    Rgds
     
  18. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ

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    You will have first to explain to some people what "chronological" means.

    LOL
     
  19. Fast_ian

    Fast_ian Two Time F1 World Champ

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    That's not very nice!

    I admitted I was wrong. No problem.

    Just wish I could recall who it was that Colin put on a par with Jimmy.

    Nero - I don't think it was Dan, although I'd read that story about Jimmy's mum saying that long ago.

    Cheers,
    Ian
     
  20. IamRobG

    IamRobG F1 Rookie

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    Could've been Ronnie Peterson or Maybe Jochen Rindt even though they had quite the interesting relationship.
     
  21. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Sorry mate, I just couldn't resist a cheap shot!!

    Very immature of me, I accept ...
     
  22. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ

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    I think it was a Scott who had already offered drives to Jimmy and wanted now to buy a Lotus Elite.
    This guy (can't remember the name now) brought him at a test session in South England where Chapman was putting some single seaters throught their pace.
    Apart from testing the Elite, Clark was told to try the F Junior, and immediatly felt at ease with it.
    Chapman was impressed by his regularity and ability to adapt.
     
  23. bernardo66

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    Sniff... :(

    ...no room for Gilles?
     
  24. spirot

    spirot F1 World Champ

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    presque - cetait le pere de Clark qui a dire que Dan cetait le seul personne que Jimmy a pur et la respecter.

    almost - it was Jim Clarks father who told Dan Gurney that he was the only guy Jimmy feared when racing ... and that he had great Respect for Gurney. ( heard Dan telling that story live to Bob Varsha several years ago)
     
  25. spirot

    spirot F1 World Champ

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    Clark started racing with Ecurie Ecosse racing a 356 Porsche, then Jaguar, and then Aston Martin. He raced Astons only and last Aston. F-1 car, then went to Lotus with Chapman. at the same time Jimmy Stewart ( brother to Jackie ) was also racing. that is how both Jim and Jackie were close friends.

    Stirling Moss brought Jim Clark to Rob Walkers attention - and from there to Chapman. Walker's team was running new Elites ... so that i think is where youre story picks up.
     

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