Drove the 488 today.. thoughts, photos and videos

No earlier than November I believe unless some fly some over.

 

There will be several in Monterey CA this weekend.

 

But no customer cars that I'm aware of.

 

Not sure about that Bob. He was asking where he could see the car in the flesh. They will also be doing test drives all weekend.

 

When I asked about 6-7 weeks ago, only a few dealers had an allocation. It seems pretty tough to get a car given the August break and sent over in time for next week.

But I'm sure FNA have several cars running around the country. The Vegas event is the 21st and I'm sure it's one of the Monterey cars.

 

Sounds like they are not coming to Aspen anytime soon. Lol

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNIjGpPHQh0

At 0:31, Modena was much louder, then even BMW M3 was louder than the 488.
What is going on with Ferrari??? Or it wasn't full throttle?

 

Yesterday evening I was offered to order a 488 by my dealer in USA...
I really wanted to get he next version of the 458....now I am torn... as until yet the 488 is not appealing to me...

 

Wait for the spider it looks much better than the coupe - Strictly IMO

 

Would your opinion change of the 488 if Car and Driver, Motor Trend and Road & Track do a road test with a 1/4 mile at 10.2 secs? We all want to say that we have a car that goes 1/4 mile in 10 secs and this would be as closest they come.

I think this would get so many 458 owners rethinking the 488. I have a black 458 and I am meeting with my local dealer next week to discuss the 488.

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/458-italia-488/476630-488-gtb-hre-renderings.html

 

Everybody has different expectations when they get a Ferrari. For me, even it can do 1/4 mile in 5 seconds, I won't care about that. Because the 458's performance is enough for me. When I drive it, I always think to change the exhaust for a better and louder sound, or to add carbon fiber stuff, regret I didn't order the race seat, etc so the car looks better. Never crossed my mind to do something so the car could run faster.

 

Never, not even once, did 1/4 mile, 0-60, or top speed come into play when buying the 458...

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Ditto. For the same price as the 458 you can get a 1500+ HP GTR and have $$ left over.

 

Having built and tuned many high performance cars both naturally aspirated and forced induction, I think the comparison between max torque and HP numbers can be misleading. Yes, if you are WFO the numbers matter. However, this condition is only a small fraction of the overall driving experience envelop. Granted, I have not driven the 488, but in general a smaller displacement engine (compared to the 458) will produce less torque at just about every condition other than at boost. Therefore, under most "normal" operating conditions (tip in, part throttle to 50%) the 458 should actually feel stronger and more responsive. As the saying goes, there no replacement for displacement and while somewhat outdated by todays FI options I feel it still holds true until manifold pressure goes positive.

 

The "stock" Corvette Z 06 does a quarter mile in 10.3. I bought one and frankly the interior is now on par with virtually all exotics. Of course for $200,000 more you do get to smell (Ferrari) leather. As an owner of a 458, I am no where near considering a 488 for all the reasons so many have already stated. Best

 

Not even close. The new Z06 is a 11+ secs car. The 458 did the 1/4 in 11 dead. 2015 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 Full Test ? Review ? Car and Driver

 

The U.S. launch will be in Sarasota , Florida.

 

Where Brian Johnson lives. I wonder if he'll be there.

 

Some dealers have had events showing the car. I'm guessing it's the same car traveling around the country at the moment. These are from a party several weeks ago at Cauley Ferrari in Michigan.
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got to drive the 488 in monterey.

sound categorically sucks imho. but as many have already said, it's great for a turbo.

car is stupid stupid fast, it's crazy! what a rush.

 

If you are making boost regardless of throttle position or rpm, by definition you are operating in a condition of over 100% volumetric efficiency. What I was referencing was those driving conditions between say 5% and 50% VE (or in the vacuum region for a better choice of words). These conditions are synonymous with most NORMAL driving conditions where only a correspondingly small portion of the engines full potential is required. For example; climbing a slight grade, pulling away from a light, or gently overtaking traffic. Again, by definition, at these low load levels the turbos are not flowing enough (exhaust energy and airflow) to produce boost nor would you want them to.

It is in this performance window where I feel the 458 would have an advantage over the 488 simply because at these same (low) VEs the larger displacement engine is pulling more air and converting this additional air into more energy.

A fair comparison to my point would be if one opened the wastegates of the 488 (effectively making it NA) and drove the cars side by side. Although not a real world apples to apples as the 488 is optimized for its configuration, I think you’d agree that the 458 would outperform the 488.

Since only WOT numbers are posted by manufactures/tuners it's difficult to find any objective data of area under the curve for various part throttle conditions. So it'll continue to be a seat of the pants subjective discussion.

 

I'd trade stupid fast for a better sound that makes my hair stand up on end.

 

I'm going to be trading my Speciale for a 488 spider In the mean time I will try and enjoy the sound that's never coming back

 

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