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308 Assembly Sequence Numbers

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  1. jessup

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    308 GTB white with Black int
    VIN 22379
    Build date Sep 1977
    Assembly number 494A
     
  2. AaronMeisner

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    My '84 GTS QV #50129 is stamped 114. I never in a million years would have found that flap without this thread!
     
  3. SilverThunder

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  5. 4re308

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    Hi sorry I'm late to this thread...my car is a May 1984 production car # 51665 with assembly # 268. Metallic black over tan. Its a USA LHD car...
     
  6. Brian A

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    The sense I get from this thread (reading as much as I could before I got bored) is that Assembly Numbers were allocated the same way McDonald's issues Order Numbers: almost arbitrarily.

    Listing engine numbers would be slightly more interesting, since they are probably more sequential, but even then, the engine assembly shop probably shipped over a few dozen engines at a time which were then randomly assigned Assembly Numbers using official Ferrari masking tape and a purple crayon.

    It seems to me that Assembly Number would be assigned to a vehicle before it gets its Serial Number. Serial Numbered components (steering column etc.) would be assigned Assembly numbers. Stamping the Serial Number in the engine compartment could be one of the last steps of the assembly process.

    All the above is, of course, speculative.
     
  7. VIZSLA

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  11. BigTex

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    I don't think so....

    The VINs were assigned to the various models, by year, and sequential (odd only for a long time)

    The assembly numbers were specific by model, so as all the fitted components, you see them on suspension, and interior bits mostly, were kind of a Work Order number as the car rolled thru assembly. But we have found they do start over with every year model, and they have added letters often to denote the market the car was being optioned for.

    By the time of the 308, engines were made in big batches, 20? 40? but were also sequential, transmissons too, but there was no particular order to how they got put in, to my knowledge, I picture them on pallets, getting pushed against the wall and dropped in, in no particular care of order.
     
  12. BigTex

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    I think the confusion is, that the Assembly numbers, other than ID to the car for the factory, had NO relation to when the car actually was completed.

    I think we see cars "passing each other" on the line all the time, in retrospect.
    "Crap, we ran out of Swiss mufflers!!....German door scoop bird screens???"
    Pushed off against the wall....:D :D :D

    The person with the most money, or Factory pull based upon celebrity, got the car first.
    I stand to be corrected on any of my understanding.....we should chart all the numbers we know, into a spread sheet and see if the date divines any deeper insight.
     
  13. Crallscars

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    If anyone is collecting the body number:

    1985 308GTS
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    Vin # 52973
    Body # 26
     
  14. 2281GT

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    1983 208 turbo GTB
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    VIN #46599
    Body # 264
     
  15. Matthias Urban

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    Assembly Numbers | F-Register

    Even the early cars have assembly numbers, called "assembly sequence" then. You can easily read them up from Hilary's Red Book, approx. from page 57 onwards. The first number in the column "NO" gives the ass. seq., second number is the body number
     
  16. gcumbey

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    1983 GTSqv
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    Vin 46591
    Body #140
     
  17. Harry-SZ

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    44381 euro GTB QV, modelyear 1983, built in 1982.
    Has assembly Number 61
     
  18. Crallscars

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    Has anyone compiled a list ?
     
  19. piezo

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    Kare was the one.
     
  20. piezo

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    My hats off to Rob for moving this thread back to 308/328 section! 😉
     
  21. rsp3

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    1985 308QV
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    Assembly #266
    VIN #54771
     
  22. Crallscars

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    Maybe we could get the spread sheet posted
     
  23. piezo

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    If we can find a copy. The old link is dead now.
     
  24. kare

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    FERRARI 308: ASSEMBLY SEQUENCE NUMBERS

    308 GTB EU/LHD
    19175-VR #139
    19265-VR #187
    19681-VR #261
    20861-?? #456
    21355-STEEL #765
    25859-STEEL #863 (update 2009-04-01)
    26637-STEEL #883 (update 2009-04-01)
    33007-STEEL #1250
    34379-STEEL #1310

    308 GTBi EU/LHD 1981
    ZFFHA02B000035993 #63 (update 2010-07-25)
    ZFFHA01B000037079 #87

    308 GTB QV EU/LHD
    ZFFLA12B000044151 #48 (update 2009-08-08)
    ZFFLA12B000044297 #54 (update 2009-04-01)
    ZFFLA12B000044381 #61 (update 2015-08-16)

    308 GTB EU/RHD
    AU=Australia
    19149-VR #1
    19173-VR #2
    19285-VR #19 (update 2009-07-27)
    19329-VR #26AU
    20267-VR #118 (update 2009-04-01)
    20343-VR #131
    20671-?? #167
    21729-STEEL #236AU

    308 GTB QV EU/RHD
    ZFFLA12C000043413 #6 (update 2012-05-04)

    308 GTB US/LHD 1976
    19399-VR 05/76 #5A
    19799-?? 06/76 #118A
    19803-?? 07/76 #111A
    20399-STEEL 11/76 #189A
    20405 #187A (update 2010-07-24)
    20433-STEEL 11/76 #250A

    308 GTB US/LHD 1977
    20783-STEEL 01/77 #96A
    20817-STEEL 01/77 #136 (update 2009-04-01)
    20895-STEEL 02/77 #44A
    21181-STEEL 03/77 #277
    21311-STEEL 04/77 #246A
    21611-STEEL 04/77 #304A
    21645-STEEL 05/77 #311

    308 GTB US/LHD 1978
    21819-STEEL 06/77 #1
    22379-STEEL 09/77 #494A (update 2015-08-16)
    24753-STEEL #802 (update 2009-07-27)
    24945-STEEL 06/78 #705A (update 2010-07-25)

    308 GTB US/LHD 1979
    29007-#885A
    30239-#938A (correction 2010-01-06)
    30329-#950A (update 2010-01-06)

    308 GTBi US/LHD 1980 "A"
    ZFFAA01A6A0031605 03/80 #17A
    ZFFAA01A2A0033111 07/80 #69A (update 2009-04-01)

    308 GTBi US/LHD 1981 "B"
    308 GTBi US/LHD 1982 "C"

    308 GTB QV US/LHD 1983 "D"
    ZFFMA12A2D0048357 10/83 #10

    308 GTB QV US/LHD 1984 "E"
    ZFFUA12A0E0049461 12/83 #2
    ZFFUA12A1E0050229 02/84 #6

    308 GTB QV US/LHD 1985 "F"
    ZFFUA12A3F0055417 12/84 #22
    ZFFUA12A0F0056945 03/85 #31

    308 GTS (EU/LHD)
    24963 #170 (update 2010-07-24)
    26405 #272 (update 2012-11-05)

    308 GTSi (EU/LHD)
    ZFFHA02B000042995 #433 (update 2009-08-08)

    308 GTS QV EU/LHD
    B=European market, S=Swiss/Swedish market
    ZFFLA13B000043825 #67
    ZFFLA13B000046439 #276
    ZFFLA13B000046453 #284 (update 2009-04-01)
    ZFFLA13B000048021 #381 (update 2009-04-01)
    ZFFLA13B000048305 #392
    ZFFLA13B000048343 #394
    ZFFLA13B000048345 #395
    ZFFLA13B000049789 #525
    ZFFLA13B000055057 #950
    ZFFLA13B000055127 #962
    ZFFLA13B000058847 #1224
    ZFFLA13B000058939 #1239
    ZFFLA13S000059149 #1261

    308 GTS US/LHD
    23421 #70A
    23515 #91A 01/78
    23605 #103A
    23825 #159A
    23943 #181A (update 2010-07-24)
    24903 #332A 06/78 (update 2009-04-01)
    25365 #438A 09/78 (update 2012-05-04)
    25521 #417 09/78 (update 2009-08-08)
    25781 #484A 10/78 (update 2012-05-04)
    26119 10/78 #695A (update 2011-01-02)
    26845 12/78 #777
    26903 12/78 #798A (update 2011-01-02)
    27949 05/79 #895A - model nor confirmed, I presume 308 GTS - (update 2010-07-25)

    308 GTSi US/LHD 1980 "A"
    ZFFAA0202A0031311 #4 (update 2009-07-27)
    ZFFAA02AXA0031377 #20A
    ZFFAA02A2A0031387 03/80 #23A (update 2009-04-01)
    ZFFAA02A1A0031445 03/80 #1 (Reported as 308 GTSi US/LHD but not confirmed)
    ZFFAA02A5A0031495 03/80 #11A
    ZFFAA02A2A0031521 03/80 #30A
    ZFFAA02A5A0032291 05/80 #194A (Reported as 308 GTSi US/LHD but not confirmed)
    ZFFAA02A3A0032581 #261A
    ZFFAA02A6A00033207 #440A (update 2009-04-01)
    ZFFAA02A2A0033589 09/80 #518A
    ZFFAA02A3A0033603 09/80 #528 (update 2010-07-25)

    308 GTSi US/LHD 1981 "B"
    ZFFAA02A9B0034563 11/80 #710A
    ZFFAA02A3B0034641 11/80 #734A

    308 GTSi US/LHD 1982 "C"

    308 GTS QV US/LHD 1983 "D"
    ZFFMA13A3D0045899 03/83 #62 (update 2010-01-02)
    ZFFMA13A0D0046041 04/83 #78A
    ZFFMA13A1D0046307 05/83 #110
    ZFFMA13A2D0046591 #140 (update 2015-08-16)
    ZFFMA13A5D0048223 10/83 #365 (update 2010-07-25)
    ZFFMA13A0D0048811 #404

    308 GTS QV US/LHD 1984 "E"
    ZFFUA13A4E0049283 12/83 #5
    ZFFUA13A6E0049415 12/83 #35 (update 2010-07-25)
    ZFFUA13A7E004945512/83 #40 (update 2010-07-25)
    ZFFUA13A5E0049597 01/84 #2
    ZFFUA13A4E0050045 01/84 #105
    ZFFUA13AXE0050129 #114 (update 2015-08-16)
    ZFFUA13A6E0051665 05/84 #268
    ZFFUA13A2E0051887 05/84 #287
    ZFFUA13A9E0052101 05/84 #309
    ZFFUA13A6E0052265 #320
    ZFFUA13A9F0056859 03/85 #447 (update 2012-11-05)

    308 GTS QV US/LHD 1985 "F"
    ZFFUA13A9F0052973 07/84 #26 (update 2015-08-16)
    ZFFUA13AXF0053145 07/84 #56
    ZFFUA13A5F0053697 09/84 #125
    ZFFUA13A9F0053959 10/84 #159 (update 2012-05-10)
    ZFFUA13A3F0054573 11/84 #241 (update 2009-04-01)
    54771 11/84 11/84 #266 (update 2015-08-16)
    ZFFUA13A6F0055359 12/84 #320
    ZFFUA13A9F0055551 01/85 #343
    ZFFUA13A6F0055989 02/85 #385
    ZFFUA13A8F0056111 02/85 #399
    ZFFUA13A7F0056441 02/85 #419
    ZFFUA13A0F0056541 03/85 #432
    ZFFUA13A9F0056585 03/85 #434
    ZFFUA13A7F0058027 05/85 #540 (update 2011-01-02)
    ZFFUA13A5F0058611 06/85 #590 (update 2015-08-16)

    208 GTB Turbo
    ZFFKA10B000043781 #147 (update 2011-01-02)
    ZFFKA10B000046599 #264 (update 2015-08-16)

    208 GTS Turbo
    ZFFKA11B000056505 #105

    308 GT/4 Dino
    13848 10/77 #576

    328 GTS
    ZFFXA20A4G0060455 #34
    ZFFXA20A1J0076295 #265

    348 TS
    ZFFKA36B000090561 #571 Assembly No #07484 (update 2011-01-02)
     
  25. Crallscars

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    Very interesting,

    Thank you Kare
     

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