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  1. scudF1

    scudF1 F1 Rookie
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    My 85' QV was built in October 84'. However, all books and manuals have the year 1984 on them. I know for fact that they are the original books. Does anyone know the story behind this?
     
  2. piezo

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    I think they just throw in whatever available into the new car leaving the factory at that time. Seems 84 built car with 84 documents is still a very reasonable thing to me. No specific manufacturing year for Ferrari in that period no?

    And I have 2V manual with lots of documents including warranty card etc since new for my QV, go figure.
     
  3. scudF1

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    That's even more interesting...
     
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    #4 Steve Magnusson, Aug 18, 2015
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    The 307/84 US 308QV OM has "M.Y. 1984 and 1985" on the title page -- do you have a different (earlier) print number OM specifically for a 1984 US 308QV?

    There is a 1985 US 308QV Maintenance & Lubrication Chart update 342/85 that you can download from All Ferraris (it's wrongly labeled as a 1985 OM).

    They didn't do an OM for every year in those days (it's more model/version/configuration based) -- e.g. for a euro 308QV they did an OM in 1982, but that's it (as 1982 to 1986 euro 308QV are all the same configuration), and they did a 1983 US OM and a 1984/85 US OM (because 1983 US is a unique configuration and 1984 and 1985 US are the same configuration, but different than a 1983 US).
     
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    #5 greyboxer, Aug 19, 2015
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    Your Ferrari was built in Europe in 84 - Europe does not do model years therefore your books don't say 85 - whats so hard about that !
     
  6. nerofer

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    The factory did not have new owner's manuals printed in time for every change to the cars; a very good example is the "serie 2" 328s, those 328s with modified suspension (and bulged wheels), which were produced from chassis # 76626 onwards, which left the production chain in February 1988.
    Those cars have completetly different datas for the settings of the front suspension as for castor, toe-in, etc...
    BUT those "serie 2 328" delivered between february and october 1988 in Europe - december 1988 in the USA - were delivered with an older edition of the owner's manual (493/88) which gave the incorrect settings of the older "serie 1" for the suspension...

    Only in October 1988 was a correct owner's manual edition (513/88 for "Euro" cars, 518/88 for "Swiss" cars, and later 535/88 for US cars) available, with the correct settings for the front suspension...

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  7. piezo

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    Great info!

    Here is my earlier thread on similar issue as this thread for reference:
    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=490022
     
  8. nerofer

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    As for the thread we are writing at this minute, my feeling is that Jimmie ("Greyboxer") is right: our american friends tend to consider that the "model year" concept applies to Ferraris, but that's not strictly true.

    Ferrari produced some cars for the United States (about 30% of its production at the time) and did label the cars produced for the USA after the "turning point" (1st of July or 1st of September?) of the year as if these were a new "model year"...
    Except that these cars weren't "stricto sensu" "M.Y whatever", as there was usually absolutely no change to the cars of the "new model year" whatsoever.

    A car produced in the autumn of 1984 would get the books available at the time, which have calendar print date on their cover.
    Even if the car would be labelled as a "M.Y 1985" for the US, it would get xxx/83 or xxx/84 books, according to what was available at the date she left the factory, certainly NOT "85" books as these would be books printed in 1985 only (Jan 1st to dec 31st).
    That a so-called "M.Y 1985" Ferrari would get books xxx/83 or xxx/84 (perhaps even xxx/82...) is perfectly normal (and by the way, the last number after the print number, i.e "600" or "1.000" is the quantity printed; if there is a "R", it means "reprint")

    As for a list of all the Ferrari publications, there is a booklet edited by a frenchman (a Mr Sauzé) about fifteen years ago listing ALL Ferrari publications until 1996 (books, owner's manuals, warranty cards, factory posters and what-have-you...) by print number which is very convenient to know what book could have been available considering the date a car left the factory.

    Rgds
     
  9. scudF1

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    It's amazing the way they were doing things back then. Today it would be unacceptable to receive a delivery of a new car with these kind of mix and match things.
     
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    #10 Owens84QV, Aug 19, 2015
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    Just found the book on eBay (UK). Bought!
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