Speciale Sound Crisis

I have had my pipes on - Novitec back box and Callisto 200 cell cats for just under 6k miles and 6 track days. Sounds miles better, totally transforms the car. I'd say 40% extra joy. Chris sorted my system, it sounds almost as good as my 599 GTO now... Almost...

 

Anyone else see the new Tubi exhaust for the Speciale at Concorso Italiano? Straight pipes! I'll post a picture later.

 

Forgot to update this...capristo is AMAZING!

 

Heard in person the FI Ultimate Race with bypass pipes at the end of last week, the sound is intoxicating. The pitch sounds like a F1 car. The Speciale also got a tune from PP. There is a clip on instagram under PPPerformance_USA (I don't know how to share the link from my phone)

 

I have a Novitec Inconel Exhaust for sale, WITHOUT Flap regulation. more details here:

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/ferrari-parts-collectibles/497740-458-speciale-novitec-exhaust-inconel.html#post144146922

 

The Fuchs/Novitec system sounds FANTASTIC with valves, why the hell would you be so stupid to buy a system without ?? especially in Switzerland

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zxv9A1CTR4

 

I tried a few systems on my speciale as I dont trust stupid youtube vids. I want to hear it when I drive the car and not when I sit in front of the computer. The systems I dont use are for sale now. Already sold the capristo, novitec with valves and FI system, Novitec Inconel without valves is the only one left.

We did serious research, nothing stupid but maybe to much for you....

 

Here's the link

https://instagram.com/p/6sT7Mko4Zl/

It sounds almost too high pitched in the video. Hard to tell I guess from a video. But you say it sounded good in real life? I'm considering the Fi Ultimate Race exhaust (they discontinued their "Evolution" exhaust this week). I'm thinking of trying the Fi Ultimate Race exhaust with my OEM cats and if I'm not satisfied then I'll try replacing the OEM cats with Capristo 200 cell cats.

 

Has anyone tried this?
Kline Innovation » 458 Speciale

 

Here it is - from Concorso Italiano
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Now that sounds like a proper Fcar.

 

Chris aplos, I see you have done them just about all, which is your favourite of these systems that you have tried ?

 

Richard, Chris has tried all the exhausts to find the sound he likes and because of that many Speciale owners wont have to do it.

I think you should show the men a bit of respect and even a thank you would be in order, calling him stupid is out of order.

 

Well, Richard is not 100% wrong considering buying a 300K Car and then spend another xxx$$ just to make it better sounding is indeed somehow stupid please dont tell my wife!

everything below is my personal view:

Richard, good question, which one ist the best. to talk about Sound ist a little bit like about Colors. for everyone different. First time I heard the Speciale was in 2013 and I wasn't satisfied at all. Coming from F355 with Tubistyle, 360 CS followed by a pre-updated 458 Italia I found the Spec Sound not aggressive enough. So I spend HOURS on YouTube when the first Systems have been on the market but as said, YouTube Vids doesnt let you know how the car sounds if you are inside of it!

One side of the Story is to hear the car outside (driving behind them) or then drive the car by yourself. For me the most important fact is not the high rev sounding because usually you drive your car in the mid range, accelerate from 3-6, and you dont accelerate them all the time from 1500 - 9000. usually if you just drive around you stay 80% in mid range and this is the main Problem of the Speciale (in my eyes). if I drive it, sitting inside of the car and accelerate from 3K up, its not like a 355, 360 CS or Italia, it is like the car is ashamed to scream....

so I had to test them all (FI, Capristo and Novitec Steel with valves and Inconel without Valves).... (yes I act not very rational if it comes to cars...)

for me the best one is the FI System followed by the Capristo and the Novitec. FI because in the midrange better then all the others. High Rev difficult to say, I guess close between all of them. Novitec sounds good in low and high rev but in mid range there is a annoying drumming noise I didnt liked. but honestly NOT one of the System satisfied me 100% in the midrange and some of them are just way too loud to use them where we both live.

You are right Richard, driving a System without Valves is not possible anymore in Switzerland, its just too loud but we had to test it. This is the reason why I didnt sold this one quickly to another Speciale owner and so I did the advertisment here on FChat. In other countries it might be possible to drive around with that System. it is an amazing Piece, made of Inconel and very light. this is for me the System which is very close to a real racecar exhaust, very loud, made of race material like they use in Formula 1 and very light. and high rev Sound is just crazy... and low rev, well it bursts Windows...when you fire her up in an Underground Garage.

What I did at the end was quite uncommon, I went back to the stock System but I used the 100 Cell Cats from Capristo and we also installed remove valve controll. Yes my car isn't the loudest but considering the consequences we face in our Country it is a loud car and (almost) legal.

I'm anyway spoilt with my 458 GT2 which has the best Sound of all of my Cars
here are two vids of my driving her in Spa this year.

The Exhaust On This Ferrari Is Just Way Too Loud ? CarBuzz

(from 0.40) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhyYtks8F_U


And: what I meant with saying its to much for you: you own a fantastic scuderia and you can keep the stock System, you dont need to consider any other exhaust for the Scuderia as its one of the last proper sounding f-cars. I never owned one but drove them often.
Enjoy this great car, its a keeper!

 

Chris deepest respect for your endeavors and thanks for your comprehensive review, you might find these mini cats useful as they genuinely prevent a CEL. I am running them on my 100 Cell Inconel Cats on the SCUD. The Swiss vehicle metriculation guys can be very an*l, they made me take off my Fuchs end system from my 430 Spider despite me having a 5 page TuV certificate. Don't tell my wife either. I have the Fuchs system back on again of course, its all about ticking the boxes

 

here is the pic, they are on 45 degree angled spacers
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It seems the speciale will never have the high pitched shriek of the Italia/Spider....and I am trying to understand why...Perhaps it has to do with the CF vs aluminum intake manifold ? The aluminum resonating at a higher frequency and is less damped than the special's CF manifold ? Just surmising.

 

I beg to differ (0:00 - 0:05 )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anZ1qyvbQKc

 

Hi Carlo. Is that Rblissjr's Speciale with Frequency Intelligence Evolution exhaust and straight pipes?

 

I am only trying to understand why stock vs stock, the S is a lower pitch. My theory is the different intake manifold material....aluminum vs CF. Metal will ring more and vibrate at a higher frequency than CF. CF is a More naturally damped material than aluminum. Just a theory.

 

Probably same issue with 430 vs SCUD, as the SCUD has a shorter exit pipe after the muffler just like a Speciale, seems shorter pipe = less tonality

 

I have OEM cats on my 430 Spider with Capristo headers (no pre cats just like a SCUD) and yet with the Fuchs/Novitec end pipe it howls like a Ducati ++

 

I guess your beast sounds amazing?

 

It's not the CF plenum. The entire engine is different, the camshaft, intake ports, combustion chamber shape, intake / exhaust valve lift.. all combining to increase the compression ratio to 14:1

It's a completely different engine which is why it sounds different.

 

I did not realize the engine differences were that dramatic...makes sense now.