Most of them earned under the old scoring system of course. +1 And, the top 10 get (many more) points now! Cheers, Ian
Why are some people trying to fix a "problem" which has not really affected F1 for decades? The last F1 driver killed by flying "debris" was IIRC the guy who picked up a track worker and his fire extinguisher. Talk about a freak accident.
Because it will save lives! Is that too difficult to understand? Also, F1 is only one open-cockpit categories. The change should trickle down to other categories: Indy, Indy light, GP2, F. Renault, F3, etc...
And banning all motor sport would stop injuries and save far more lives, both for the participants and the spectators, so why not call for a complete ban if you're so concerned about lives being lost?
I think the raised windshields could be a really great solution, it would give the "retro look" and it would be fairly easy to install...the drivers extraction would remain easy, heat would not be a problem, best way to go IMO...better and easier than a canopy...
Motor racing wasn't banned because drivers were burning in cars before. The sporting authorities addressed the risk and found solutions to make it safer. Why should they stop in their endavour to make racing safer now? Why do you have to be simplistic in all your posts?
That's not true, it all depends on how it's build and from what material....if strong enough it could have saved Wilson and massa from geting injured. I believe nothing can save you from an impact like Bianchi (cause i don't believe any transparent structure can hold an impact like that), but i'm pretty sure it will stand and deflect most things that can be trhown at during a race....
So should F1 cars have air-bags fitted in the cockpits to improve the safety? How about bringing back traction control to eliminate the possibility of a driver ever loosing control of his car? Then I assume you need to add runflat tyres to prevent blow-outs from occurring? Should they also fit brake lights to help avoid collisions? How about adding front lights so the cars can be more easily seen by the other drivers - Especially in the rain? Those are all perfectly good safety solutions that could help prevent injuries and deaths! (As proven by ordinary, everyday road cars!) Because suitable responses don't always need to be over complicated and totally convoluted to make logical sense. You seem to be on a bit of a safety crusade here so I ask you this: How many lives would you're preferred closed canopy concept save in all varieties of racing that are currently open cars? Now how many lives would My simplistic idea of banning all motor sport in the interest of safety save? (I'm willing to bet My simplistic idea would trump your complicated idea by a Country mile! ) So if you're so concerned with peoples safety - How can you argue against banning all motor sport? Or is it your opinion that people should be allowed to choose to risk their safety and go motor racing? If that's the case then why shouldn't they also be allowed to risk their safety in an open car if they wish? Also, your argument about drivers burning in cars is slightly misleading really isn't it? The issue with drivers burning in cars was that it was a relatively common occurrence "back in the day" - Cars were highly likely to catch fire based on their designs as you rightly point out. How often do drivers get hit in the head by debris though? (and yes, I'm aware that you've named 4 drivers in the other "closed cockpit" thread). It's not exactly a regular occurrence in the same way that catching fire used to be is it? And lets look at this car catching fire scenario: What happens to a driver in a closed canopy car if it's involved in an accident that results in the canopy jamming and the car catching fire? Would you be happy watching a driver in a burning car who was desperately trying to smash open the canopy of his car with only his gloved hands? Unlikely a scenario as it might seem, it could happen! - And it's just about as probable as a driver getting hit by debris!
Yes, F1 and other formulae could adopt all of these. It would make racing safer. I hope they become standard one day. These devices were put on road cars to save lives, they could do the same in F1.
The issue is about making motor racing (F1 in this case) safer, so that it doesn't become a slaughterhouse and risk getting banned one day. Your scenario is stupid. Do you think the FIA didn't examine the safety aspect and the risk of fire when they made closed cockpit mandatory in LMP? Think about it; if closed cockpit are good for LMP, they are good for F1 too! Do you think the configuration of a F1 is set in stone, never to be altered? I have news for you, F1 is an evolution with rules changing every 5/10 years time. But I am through arguing with you anyway; you don't make sense. And all that because on one thread I said that Ferrari without Enzo Ferrari wasn't Ferrari for me anymore! You have a bee in your bonnet since !!!
You can "safety feature" the thrill out of a sport. Part of the attraction to motorsport racing is the danger. Thrill seeking sports are performed and viewed by thrill seekers. If you make things too sterile, then all those people lose interest.
Precisely Luckily F1 is ruled by $ so hopefully cooler heads will prevail over the knee jerk reactors.
Just get rid of drivers and cars. Run the race on an XBox on the Internet. I bet in many cases the races would be more interesting.
Da Matta: Numerous accidents prove need for closed cockpits Da Matta: Numerous accidents prove need for closed cockpits - IndyCar News I suppose Da Matta also has a knee-jerk reaction ...
I couldnt care less if Indycars want to get closed cockpits. They already half covered their wheels. F1 isnt IRL
"like an ostrich burying its head into the sand" F1 and IRL are both open cockpit concepts; the risk is the same.
Different formulas, different rules (eg tethered wheels in F1), different driver talents and very different tracks. As I said many times before: there simply is not a case for F1 drivers being killed by flying debris, at the most one every twenty years, hardly a reason to throw the baby out with the bath water
They don't tether the wheels in Indy cars? Wow! +1 It is what it is. Motor racing is dangerous. Don't like it? Don't do it. Cheers, Ian
TBH I am not sure. Front wheels yes but not sure about the rears. At any rate the cars are so vastly different in the ways they are regulated and built and raced it is hard to compare the series. Tight ovals and the top speeds being the most obvious ones.
