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CS matricola n: 133309 - rebuilt - reconstruction.

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  1. euro_king

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    #51 euro_king, Jul 20, 2015
    Question , on the engine bay carbon panel. Did your body shop any special clear coat material
    Because of the heat that the engine will produce.


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  2. GordonF355

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    #52 GordonF355, Jul 20, 2015
    why don't any of these images show up in the posts and just appear as a link? That is annoying! Nice looking car (sans the snorkel) and incredible looking garage! Damn!
     
  3. Living4life

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    #53 Living4life, Jul 20, 2015
    The pictures as a link are just because of the way he uploads them with the app.

    The car is looking fabulous!
     
  4. bikz

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    #54 bikz, Jul 21, 2015
    is a coat of clear paint or anything else needed to be applied? i'm curious.....the amount of heat generated there is quite something to be honest.....
     
  5. Exotic Lambo

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    #55 Exotic Lambo, Jul 21, 2015

    In my experience in all of the carbon panels I worked on (Ferrari, Maserati and Lamborghini) I don't think that any of the manufactures applies anything else than just clear; as I unknown the brand of what they used I have always gone for PPG assuming their high quality.
    PPG has it available in gloss or satin but seeking the original look I usually go for gloss and that helps to keep the dirt off it.

    I usually just ask my painter (for those in South Florida I continue to use Jaime Moreno the one behind the the reconstruction of 134675) to sand the panels, pencil cover the imperfections on black or clear (depending on the carbon felt under it) to finally spray multiple layers of clear.
     
  6. Exotic Lambo

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    #56 Exotic Lambo, Jul 21, 2015

    I don't think that even Ferrari has a solution for the intense of heat under the engine bay; that being the reason why the panels fade out so much.
     
  7. bikz

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    #57 bikz, Jul 21, 2015
    thanks for info....love the car and the snorkel!
     
  8. Exotic Lambo

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    #58 Exotic Lambo, Aug 3, 2015
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    After spending some time working on the car I realize that although the previous paint work was OK it's far from perfect so I decided to disassemble the passenger side door, front bumper and rocker panel to have my body guy Jaime out of Pompano Beach, Florida go over the whole job to correct any imperfections.

    Jaime is the same body guy I used when I rebuilt 134675, he is very patient and does take his time to get it just right, there are forum members who have used him for paint and body work for their car and they can attest on his work.
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  9. Exotic Lambo

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  10. f355spider

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    #60 f355spider, Aug 3, 2015
    I didn't know that East Penn (Deka) was making Lithium batteries now. I may have to get one for the Scud. ;)
     
  11. Exotic Lambo

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    #61 Exotic Lambo, Aug 3, 2015

    It's not a lithium battery; it's the smaller model that would still carry the load on the car.
    Me and my partner have try this same model battery on our other Ferrari 360 coupe and two other twin turbo Gallardos and they worked well as long as you keep it fully charged.
     
  12. Exotic Lambo

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    #62 Exotic Lambo, Aug 4, 2015
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    I just found this interesting picture, I don't really know what show was that in or if that is my actual 133309 car.
    It looks like Top Gear U.S. Does anyone know if Adam's CS was on the show?
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  13. Living4life

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    #63 Living4life, Aug 4, 2015
    Adam Corolla was originally in the TOP GEAR USA pilot and thats where this screen shot is from...no one has ever seen the pilot episode and he was replaced for the TOP GEAR USA series when it finally hit the air.

    There is a $5000 reward for this episode if anyone can find it.

    Jalopnik's $5000 Top Gear USA NBC Pilot Episode Challenge
     
  14. sunir

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    #64 sunir, Aug 4, 2015
    Adam Corolla is kinda annoying although he's a great car enthusiast just his voice and humor not really into it. Plus USA Top Gear is a horrible show. Flat out sucks. That one guy Adam Ferrera is a goon and the other guy Rutledge Wood is corny ...only one that's worth a damn is Tanner and the show is an utter shame in comparison to the British version. Overall the show is a downright abomination that should have never made it past half of season 1.
     
  15. Exotic Lambo

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    #65 Exotic Lambo, Aug 5, 2015

    I have to agree a little bit, he is a little intense.
     
  16. Exotic Lambo

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    #66 Exotic Lambo, Aug 6, 2015
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    What started as a buffing job now has turn into actual paint work. Below are some pictures on what's being done correcting some minor details and re-clearing the two quarter panels and roof. The passenger side door, right front fender and bumper will be completely repainted.
    I am exited to take the car back and start the assembly.
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  17. supratime

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    #67 supratime, Aug 6, 2015
    Nice! Just curious how much $$ do u think ur rebuilt CS can get in this current market?
     
  18. Exotic Lambo

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    #68 Exotic Lambo, Aug 6, 2015

    Oh, it's not about that it's about the personal reward when is all done.
    In the past their market value is driven by the retail of the clean versions minus 20 to 30 percent off.
    Given the current market value increases I really don't know where the value of the rebuilt ones would be yet I'm not really thinking about resale value but having a good looking CS with personal reward.
     
  19. DonJuan348

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    #69 DonJuan348, Aug 7, 2015
    Good way to think about the value is not caring about it. He has CS for much cheaper than current asking price.

    It's priceless until you want to sell it .
     
  20. Exotic Lambo

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    #70 Exotic Lambo, Sep 1, 2015
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    Ever since we got this car I have been trying to cross reference the carbon rotor hubs with CS and F430 part numbers but none of them match.

    Looking at an Enzo closely at a local Ferrari event I realize how similar or same they are to the ones on our CS...

    Has anyone seen these type of carbon rotor hubs before?
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  21. 360trev

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    #71 360trev, Sep 1, 2015
    Yes, it was the very first version from Brembo. Very rare, only a few cars had that style before they where superseded by the style everyone is familiar with.

    Most CS cars had stainless steel center bells (which sadly are heavy) whereas the later 430 Scuderia swapped the bells over to a lightweight alloy or aluminum alloy (as used on the F430 Challenge cars). These differences save (from memory) around a kilo per wheel so make a dramatic improvement in unsprung weight, significantly more than the Ti wheel bolts ever did. Someone should sell an upgraded part. I was massively surprised at the differences in weight on the later bells. Shame they where not originally used as they obviously benefit the handling....

    The cynic in me believes they deliberately held some back so that the 430 Scuderia had measurable improvements in handling. I hope that wasn't the case!
     
  22. freshmeat

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    #72 freshmeat, Sep 1, 2015
    To be completely honest, I actually prefer the handling / steering feel in the CS. The Scuderia feels heavier in comparison, so I wouldn't necessarily say it was an improvement.

    CS rotors w titanium hats...hmmm now that's an idea.
     
  23. 24000rpm

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    #73 24000rpm, Sep 1, 2015
    talk about unspring weight

    the starfish oem 18" is lighter than the 19" challenge stradale Oem wheel

    bar looks, I wonder why not put on the 18" oem for performance's sake.


     
  24. rmarchjr

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    #74 rmarchjr, Sep 1, 2015
  25. 360trev

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    #75 360trev, Sep 1, 2015
    You can do this - i ran this setup originally on my centerlocks before upgrading to F430 Challenge brakes. You just need x4 REAR centerbells from the 430 Challenge cars. Or if running road hubs x4 rear bells from a Scuderia.

    Plus it also depends on so many things not to mention tires, wheel weight, camber, toe settings, rake, etc.

    Ofcourse I am also comparing to something rather different than stock, genuine F430 Challenge Racecar centerlock conversion fitted with MPSS tires and uprated RS29 'Yellow' Pagid pads on 398mm carbon discs. I run almost zero toe on front and high levels of -ve camber with a net result of all these changes is a razor sharp turn in with minimal understeer and super agility. Feels wonderful and braking performance like you wouldn't believe.
     
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