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Should we need another tire war?

Discussion in 'F1' started by Bas, Sep 2, 2015.

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Does F1 need a second tire manufacturer?

  1. Yes, we need more tire manufacturers

  2. No, having a single manufacturer is the way forward

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  1. P.Singhof

    P.Singhof F1 Rookie

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    I think you got him wrong...What he ment is that certainly all the tyres for the teams are the same but if f.e. Ferrari is the main team for Bridgestone then Ferrari could request Bridgestone to change the rear tyre if they do not suit the characteristics of their car but as this also means a change of the rear tyre for the smaller teams they need to live with that even if the old specification suited their needs better. I think this was about the situation in the last years of Schumacher driving for Ferrari, that Bridgestone mainly concentrated on the needs of Ferrari wheras Michelin had to work together with McLaren, Benetton....

    I think with the lack of testing an additional tyre manufacturer would make things even more unpredictable for the teams as they would not only rely on the engine manufacturer but also on the tyre manufacturer and you could only win if both of them have a good year as there would not be to much changes during the season. Certainly this might mean that Mercedes could loose some of the advantage over Ferrari with the tyres but it could also mean that thing got even worse...Especially Williams, McLaren and RB would have one more unknown apart from the engine where they have few influence on...
     
  2. Etcetera

    Etcetera Two Time F1 World Champ
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    No tire wars. Last thing we need is a more broken F1.

    Also, end the moronic tire rules.
     
  3. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Well, that would be just too bad!

    Tyre manufacturers wouldn't be allowed to have a "pet" team and develop tyres for it.

    They should build tyres that suit all the teams without favouring one.
     
  4. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ

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    The ban on testing would be abandoned in an ideal world.

    It is a step backwards.
     
  5. RallyeChris

    RallyeChris Formula Junior

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    Unfortunately, it was that way before and would be that way again. With tens of millions of $$$ invested by each supplier, there is too much on the line to not stack the deck, so to speak.
     
  6. Remy Zero

    Remy Zero Two Time F1 World Champ

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    I'm on the fence for this. I do want proper tyres, than the crap we have now. But imagine having a competitive car only to be let down by horrible tyre supplier.
     
  7. subirg

    subirg F1 Rookie

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    Agreed. Instead of an in season tyre war, why not make interested tyre manufacturers compete for the f1 contract on the basis of tyre performance. Oh I just remembered- it's not about the sport, it's about the money. Silly me...
     
  8. subirg

    subirg F1 Rookie

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    Didn't you get the memo? F1 is already a spec series.... Everything down the length of the drivers man sausage is pretty much regulated to within an inch of its life. I agree that in an ideal world, f1 would be far less regulated, but it isn't so. Tire wars creates a massive degree of performance differential in the system that cannot be balanced by changes elsewhere in the package because they are locked down. It's completely and utterly pointless on its own.
     
  9. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    If F1 was a spec series it we would see a Marussia have a surprise top 5 start or finish on occasion. ;)

    Though you're right it's very strictly regulated, thus making it so ****ing expensive...IMO it would be less expensive if the rules where relaxed a little.
     
  10. tervuren

    tervuren Formula 3

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    An interesting thread to read.

    Reading it makes my position that of "doesn't matter" rather than my original yes.

    I do remember the bridgestone teams getting their tails kicked by Michelin, it did make it interesting though, a superior car on weaker tires made for interesting racing action.(Ferrari vs Macca)

    The ban on testing does not really seem to cut any costs, big teams will spend big. Ban testing, and they pay big for software engineers for simulations. The little teams are left the in dust either way.
     
  11. tervuren

    tervuren Formula 3

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    #36 tervuren, Sep 6, 2015
    Last edited: Sep 6, 2015
    Looks like Pirelli is asking my question to. They don't want the bad press or risk. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. A teeny tine hole that releases pressure could of been also been put in the tire. Fill to spec - as it heats, it bleeds.
     

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