Very interesting spy shots of latest FF test mule!

This means that F12 successor will come with a Turbo V12?

 

Excuse the sidebar, but I had to laugh out loud when I read that bit.

 

Well I do at least TRY to make a logical justification to myself!!

 

Only Ferrari are arrogant enough to produce what they want and basically expect their customers to take it or leave it!

 

Yes-no option.

 

Assume they will hybrid rather than turbo the V12 surely?
..... Starts plotting f12 purchase....

 

No, not yet. Too expensive and too heavy and still some issues.

 

so now every Ferrari will have 3,8 liter V8 turbo?
maybe they should just put this two electric engines from Tesla S P85D into new FF?

 

Bleak future, initially they said the V12 would be hybrids, but now it seems they are trying to cut costs as much as possible
If the competition takes advantage it could be a setback for Ferrari in the next years

 

I would love to pair my 2012 V12 FF alongside a 2016/17 TTV8 FF!

This car is so phenomenal I will definitely enjoy it with both drivetrains. My girlfriend was ecstatic when she drove the A Roadster but she hasn't stopped talking about the FF. It is her favourite car of mine she says!

Does anyone know if it will debut at Geneva 2016 for sure? I will definitely go just for that. We preferred the Geneva show to the Frankfurt one.

 

They said that before the change in management...

Hybrid option is heavy, expensive, and complicated.

 

So many smart-ass ways to answer this, but the most direct would be because it was funny.

More convoluted:
The notion that any sentence, not intended as satire, that includes Sensible and Ferrari, is by definition, funny, or maybe delusional. But I am inclined to give Mac credit for a sense of humor and better sense than to think any Ferrari is a sensible option in any decision making process. He's clearly an enthusiast and passionate Ferrari owner, and knows he speaks tongue in cheek when uttering such.

Back to the point of the original post: I popped an image of the mule on top of an image of a current FF in Photoshop, and the differences are subtle to be sure (made a cool aniGIF, but its too big right now to upload. Will work on slimming it down to share). Top that with the knowledge that Ferrari tests new tech in old models with duck tape, plastic wrap, camouflage and assorted odd data gathering appendages and you get not much. Its a test mule. Its an FF with stuff stuck to it, and sounded to me like a 12 on startup.

Will the M version have a TT V-8 or Hybrid tech from the LaF? I don't know. My guess would be they'd use the heavier and more complex hybrid tech for the FF, but not until the next big update, and use the TTV-8 for the M release as an option and maybe even for the sportier F12. Doesn't make sense to me to burden the lightweight, sportier F12 with all those batteries and motors when you could plop in a lighter, more torque, more HP TTV8 and get better performance for less hassle. The FF is to me a more obvious way to use the more bulky and complicated hybrid tech, given its intended target use and purpose.

But those are just my opinions and ideas: worth what you paid for them.

 

Sounds the same. Looks only a little different. Maybe it's a TT12

 

+1

Not liking the V8 turbo idea for F12 replacement at all.

Not really interested in 488 (looks, bland sound, and prefer the Speciale)
No interest in California (they look nice but it's not ''me'')
No interest in FF V8 (love the V12 FF)
No interest in an F12 V8 turbo...

Would be interested in 488 Speciale, but to get a slot when you haven't purchased any new Ferrari's will be tough.

Buying a new Ferrari, spec it yourself, is one of those experiences in life I would love to have. But I have no interest in doing that with a car I would not be in love with...

I can only hope and work at a great 2016 to be able to secure a new F12, I guess!

 

It seems from what I'm reading etc. that the new 488 is a bit smoother ride and lacks the pure animal feeling of the NA cars. 458 Aperta would be great I think.

Speed and fuel economy are not what makes a Ferrari IMO. It's the exciting balance of race car and street car.

If you want fast and smooth get a Porsche. TT8s are not for me in any Fcar.

 

I've no doubt hybrid is in their future, but it's just that, the future.

 

Looking at the video - it is hard to have any conclusion. The car is a test mule for something and it sounds like a v12. That's about all we can conclude. Except the test rig needs something that pokes out the trunk of an FF...

My money is on this mule being nothing to do with any forthcoming FF update - it's just that the FF platform provides a useful development package with all that space for running test equipment in...

 

The mule from the video or an identical one drove past me last time I was walking around in Maranello. You did not hear it before you could see it - and when it passed the sound was very reminiscent of their V8TT models... As Marcel writes, I believe V8 has been confirmed for the FF M.

The FF has not been a sales success, it has a much wider appeal than the F12 - should be outselling the latter by a healthy margin. Maybe V8, more space and "added practicality" will help attract new buyers from other segments.