The (one and only) '0846' Debate Thread

It states in the article listed here that Glickenhaus bought 002 based on the research of Marcel Massini and others: http://www.cafespa.com/full_story.php?news=000034&title=The-Oldest-Ferrari-in-Existence&comment=on&f=5&t=26

They are obviously friends or at least know each other from the picture below. My guess is that Marcel's findings don't agree with Jim's and he doesn't want to upset his friend by posting those findings; or Jim has actually commissioned the report, paid for it, and now owns the copyright to the report, the findings of which do not agree with his. It would be a safe bet that if Marcel's findings agreed with Jim's we'd certainly know about it with those findings being posted/published at least here and in the 0846 pdf. The silence speaks volumes.
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But you wouldn't sue if they had come out publicly and said they agreed with your belief.

Oh, and you actually need grounds to win a law suit against someone.

 

I'm sure any report Marcel Massini has made in the past and will prepare in the future is to the best of his knowledge and has disclaimers attached that will stand up in law. If he was afraid of being sued he wouldn't prepare any reports at all.

 

The issue is that those with deep pockets have the ability to intimidate by just threatening legal action. Truth is going to be a long way down the road in the legal process. That course may even come with multiple appeals which will draw it out even longer.

 

Any professional person whether they be a mechanic, lawyer, doctor etc has the risk of being sued for negligence. Nothing would ever get done if everyone didn't do the job they were commissioned/paid to do for fear of being sued.

 

There is something called Professional Indemnity/Liability Insurance that most professionals take out to protect themselves and/or their businesses against legal action.

 

I am not a complete trolling *******, never have been and not arguing to argue. By your reasoning no car of high value or to the value of 8 digits would ever get a report prepared by those in the business of preparing such reports.

 

Some 20 posts ago, the question of whether there is a Marcel Massini report (or not) is posed but not answered. From that question this thread has turned into a Michael Chriton novel about the billionaire collector, the lawsuit against the expert, the one man with the truth.........

What if Marcel did do a report and what if he didn't. He himself stated at the beginning of this thread what his connection to this car is and until and if additional evidence comes to hand how would he possibly be able to report anything else? Since there may not be any report at all nor one in the works all of the talk of lawsuits is somewhat premature, I would like to concentrate on an statement from Steve that Marcel and Jim are either friends or at least know each other. Jim owns 412P #0854, Modulo and the Dino PF special as well as #0846 so their paths must have to have crossed at various times, this world being a fairly small one. Is the point that they are friends posed as a question or an attack? I would trust that we have enough integrity to not try and attack any future commentary by Marcel based on a perceived conflict of interest.

 

Montlhéry, France 1991.
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Cette "0846" fait débat sur un autre site.

Aurait-elle été dérobée une nuit à l'Usine, une année plus tard, pour lui faire une transplantation cardiac?

Puis remise en place, là elle se trouvait, pour que deux hommes la retrouve quelques années plus tard, et se partages le reste???

 

While there is no proof or reliable eyewitness testimony, this is still purely theoretical. And that'll bring us nowhere. We need more details...

 

Absolutely, that's what I said

 

Has any new information showed up at this other dicussion you mentioned?

 

no, I have nothing new

non, je n'ai rien de nouveau

scuse my bad Inglish

 

What car is shown in these pics? 0846 did not exist as a complete car in 1991.

 

#DP003 in 1991.

 

DP003, Tu es sûr? J Williams au volant?

 

"Based on this I'm pleased to report that ACI will confirm our P3/P4 as original and invite it to The 100th celebration of The Targa Florio this May."
- James Glickenhaus

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Subject: 1966/1967 Ferrari P3/P4 Original Chassis

Dear James,

After studying the P3/P4 Chassis in the car owned today by you I confirm that this is the original P3 Chassis that I modified in December 1966 to accept a P4 engine and that this original modified chassis then went on to win The 1967 24 Hours Of Daytona.

- Ing. Mauro Forghieri





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Attachment is .pdf copy of Mauro Forghieri letter of confirmation
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