Metrojet A321 crash in Sinai

Crash: Metrojet A321 over Sinai on Oct 31st 2015, disappeared from radar in climb over Sinai

 

I don't know if this video is authentic, but if it is .... Looks like payback to Russia from ISIS for Syria.

LiveLeak.com - Isis claims in this video shooting down the russian aircraft with a missile

 

Ivan will get his butt kicked, if he engages IS inside towns and villages. At night, it will be even more difficult for the Russians. IS will have plenty of egress options, when it chooses to engage the Russians. IS will not venture out into the open plains.

Russia will never release the truth behind the fatal airliner accident.

 

The irony is, there's a 99.999999% chance the missile used was made by Ivan.

 

That is terrifying. But also my first thought was Isis.

 

NOTAM-


1V42/15 HAZARDOUS SITUATION IN EGYPTIAN AIRSPACE IN NORTHERN SINAI GOVERNATE WITHIN THE AREA BOUNDED BY 311400N 322200E - 294000N 324000E - 293000N 345400E - 312000N 341200E - 311400N 322200E (CAIRO FIR, SINAI PENINSULA). POTENTIAL RISK TO AVIATION OVERFLYING THIS AREA AT LESS THAN 25,000FT AGL FROM DEDICATED ANTI-AVIATION WEAPONRY. OPERATORS ARE STRONGLY ADVISED TO TAKE THIS POTENTIAL RISK INTO ACCOUNT IN THEIR RISK ASSESSMENTS AND ROUTEING DECISIONS. CONTACT UK DEPARTMENT FOR TRANSPORT (DFT) (+44) (0)20 7944 3260 OR (+44) (0)207 944 5999 OUT OF HOURS 14-12-0274/AS6.
SFC-UNL

 

Take with a large pinch of salt.....Aircraft was at FL31 and that is mobile phone footage of the missile impact.

The first pictures show the wreckage in quite large pieces.....

http://lifenews.ru/news/167363

 

Air France & Lufthansa are re-routing until they confirm the cause.

 

Why would you think that? If it's ISIS, chances are the arms are American or Swedish.

 

SAM-7

 

No way it was a MANPAD. As stated earlier, she was at FL 310 and no MANPAD reaches that high. I can vouch for that because we outclimbed an SA-16 (next generation from SA-7) fired at us at 12,000' in Desert Storm. Missile died at about 15,000'.

 

RIP all those onboard.

The photos so far appear to show the wreckage is over a large area which tends to indicate an in flight breakup before impact (the reports are that there a 2 major pieces of wreckage).

Black boxes have been recovered, so they should be able to find the cause.

M

 

RIP all those onboard..

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So, who has the black boxes? Russia, Egypt, or France?

Even though its a Russian plane, doesn't Airbus send it's inspectors to the crash and investigate? I'm sure the Russian authorities have investigative jurisdiction but can they stiff arm Airbus and keep them away?

 

Last I heard, Egypt had the boxes. Airbus will have a "go-team" ready to respond if called upon by the investigating authority (very likely). Yes, they can be blocked out, though. I believe Egypt has jurisdiction for the investigation since the plane went down in Egypt, but I could be wrong. Russia will certainly be a "party" to the investigation, though.


Mark

 

Just read that Russia has the CVR and FDR. (FWIW... not all info is accrurate.)

Airbus has a group on site.

Evidence appears to show in-flight breakup. Debris scattered over several miles. Some charred, some not.

Again a repeat of the statement that ISIS has no equipment that could hit a target at 32k feet.

 

I've heard the news tonight and they mention that the airplane has a tail accident back in 2001. Maybe this is one of the accident cause.

 

From wiki:

"On 16 November 2001, while operating for Middle East Airlines as F-OHMP, the aircraft suffered a tailstrike landing in Cairo. It was repaired and went back into service with the airline in 2002"

 

If this will be the main reason of the crash....it's murder by negligence.....

WTF??

 

Happened before can happen again.

Rip to the poor souls

 

Did they ever determine what happened in last years Air Asia crash?

 

At SFO?

Pilot error.

 

No. "Operator error." They are not classed as pilots, I understand.

 

Ah... my apologies. But it was the fault of the 3 guys at the controls and not the ground equipment, ground staff, or the airplane.

 

Didn't mean to jump at the pilot thing but these people are classed as operators and obviously didn't perform as pilots when pilots should have. Sad state of affairs in some of the airlines.