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  1. Newman

    Newman F1 World Champ Consultant Owner Professional Ferrari Technician

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  2. Brian A

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    Gawd. The new Mustang has a flat plane as well. WHAT HAS THIS WORLD COME TO???!!!???
     
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  3. Steve King

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    Speaking about engines I see the V12 308 is almost complete and will be started in a few weeks.
     
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  4. finnerty

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    Does bolt right in ?

    What transaxle goes with it ?

    (those are actually somewhat genuine questions, btw):)
     
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  5. Albert-LP

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    If you need more power in your 308, the answer is "sell it and buy a 208 turbo intercooler"...

    :)

    Ciao
     
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  6. Ferraridoc

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    I'll bite - what is it?
     
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    The future - 40 years late!
     
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    well obviously it's a touring motor, I mean check out the cool Al lock case it travels in :D
     
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    '03 Indy engine.
     
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  10. Ferraridoc

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    Ah! So not terribly useful then
     
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    With the hood/bonnet close, who's gonna know? :)
     
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  12. Ferraridoc

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    The petrol station, for one, when I ask for methanol
     
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  13. Newman

    Newman F1 World Champ Consultant Owner Professional Ferrari Technician

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    Correct! Gen III, really a cosworth that GM paid them to make.
     
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  14. Newman

    Newman F1 World Champ Consultant Owner Professional Ferrari Technician

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    It'll run on C16 too
     
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    No but it can be made to fit and I'm certain it would be worth the trouble.
     
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  17. GrayTA

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    Ok, so what does a motor like that cost?



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  18. Newman

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    $16K - $19K depending on what its been through which is reasonable considering they were $125K new.
     
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    Thanks, but you see me surprised; I would have thought much more...

    Rgds
     
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  20. Steve King

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    Hummm , about the cost of a 308 rebuild. Hahahaha
     
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  21. Newman

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    A lot less than some of the offerings out there that make half the HP! Yes its less practical than sticking with a ferrari engine and to some it would be an unforgivable sin but its pretty tempting. Even if it was detuned (lower compression ratio and milder cams) its still going to make impressive numbers. For the amount of times I drive my car I could leave it in Indy configuration, run C16 in it and not care.
     
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  22. nerofer

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    But you would have of course to use a different transmission and drivetrain? The stock OEM ttransmission, clutch, driveshafts, uprights, etc wouldn't stand 650 hp? And who knows how much ft/lbs of torque?

    Rgds
     
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    I would take the wait and see approach with the gearbox. Like anything, its how you drive it and treat it that has a big impact on whether you break it or not. The clutch would be a multi-disc that fits the engine. Using Mark's V12 conversion as an example I dont see or know of any gearbox modifications and he's estimating over 800HP. Doesn't mean it'll hold together but I think he's taking a similar approach and if it breaks beef it up accordingly if needed.

    My intention isn't to put this in a 308, just thinking out loud but I will go so far as to make some measurements of a 308 engine I have here to see how monumental it might be. Then who knows?
     
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    I think you are already tip-toeing towards this being actually done...

    Rgds
     
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  25. Newman

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    lol
     
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