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  1. Jeff328

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    #1 Jeff328, Nov 23, 2015
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    All the recent tool kit threads inspired me to go through the box of stuff I got with my 328 many years ago. I have a complete tool kit, a complete jack tool kit, and a trouble light with the cigarette lighter end that is correct for my car.

    But I also have a few extra items. I have an extra empty tool roll pouch, which is slightly different than the other one I have that has all the tools in it, I have an extra trouble light and pouch, the light has the old? plug end on it. And I have a t-handle spark plug wrench that is the subject of this thread.

    Here's a photo of it. The handle part is 7-1/2 inches long, the socket+swivel+extension part of it is 7-7/8 inches long. I'm not sure what size the socket is. The socket has a black rubber insert inside it. There are no markings on it anywhere. Is this a Ferrari tool? And if it is, is it worth anything?
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  2. godabitibi

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    Yes it's a Ferrari tool. I'm interested in that socket if of proper size if you want to sell. Let me know please.
     
  3. Jeff328

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  4. nerofer

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    T-Bar spark plug tool, for carbed cars and some early 2-Valve injected; superseeded later by the pair "14/14 combination wrench + spark plug tool".
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  5. maurice70

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    What is the market for that spark plug tool?
     
  6. piezo

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    #6 piezo, Nov 24, 2015
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    For later ones I say about 220-250 reasonably cuz it's rare.

    For early Tommy bar ones it'll be more than that, I guess 300, cuz it's even rarer. Haven't seen one in the open market for a long while.

    It sounds a lot, but the supply is really scarce.
     
  7. godabitibi

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    Steve, your prices are reasonnable but some are asking much more than that.
     
  8. nerofer

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    Much depends on your timing: if you absolutely need "a something" immediately, usually you have to pay what the only seller in the game is asking on the day you are looking.
    But should you be ready to wait, from time to time some nice deals are still to be found. Of course, for some tools you will have to wait for months, even years...

    Rgds
     
  9. Steve King

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    Although it looks silver it is really a piece of gold. My bet is this is one of almost none available in the world. Everyone who has one will not break the set to sell it. Price accordingly but I would start the auction at $500.
     
  10. piezo

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    That's too aggressive. Take a look at this one from the well known eBay $eller:
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ferrari-308-Tool-Kit-Roll-Bag-Wrenches-Screwdriver-Pliers-Spark-Plug-Wrench-OEM-/161708980017
    I'll buy this one and sell everything else and ended paying less than $500.
     
  11. Jeff328

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    Wow. Glad I asked!

    What size is the socket supposed to be? I measured it with inside calipers and flat-to-flat it is 20.8 mm and point to point it is about 24 mm give or take, depending on which pair of points are measured.
     
  12. Steve Magnusson

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    It fits a spark plug with a 13/16" hex drive.
     
  13. nerofer

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    I wrote it about a thousand times, but:

    Crown of the spark plug tool is:
    21mm for 308 plugs, which are 14mm;
    18mm for 328 plugs, which are 12mm.
    Yours seems definitively a 308 spark plug tool...

    (And a footnote for Italy: The Turbo cars all have the 2-valve engine, even the "Turbo Intercooler" which is contemporary of the 328, so all "Turbos" need a 308 spark plug tool)
     
  14. BigTex

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    Yes it's the EARLY 308 spark plug wrench...

    Definately worth "something" as one sold last week in our ads with no price ever mentioned.

    It only fits the old spark plugs of course, at some point they went smaller, (QV maybe??) so the tool changed.

    I would toss out an offer, but there's already blood in the water!!
     
  15. Jeff328

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    Thanks for the quick replies! I just checked it against one of my spare 328 spark plugs and the socket is larger than the 328 spark plug. So looks like a 308 tool.

    When I bought my 328 9 years ago it came with a box of "junk". Seems like the box had not only all the 328 tools and accessories, but also this plug wrench, an empty 308 tool roll, and a second work light with the smaller under-dash connector. All in really good condition.

    I'm willing to sell those 3 things. Now I have to figure out what the tool roll and work light are worth. I see a couple lights for sale in the classifieds for $250-$300. Not sure what an empty tool roll is worth.
     
  16. BigTex

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    This...Champion, per the Owner's Manual!

    I like NGK myself....
     
  17. BigTex

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    I am putting some early tools together for long time 308 chatters, if you want to send that spark plug wrench my way.

    I am trying to keep it from getting crazy, on the price.
     
  18. BigTex

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    I would price the trouble light at $300.

    For that I use a magnetic LED pen light, stuck on the engine lid.

    Technology has passed that original unit by...:D :D :D
     
  19. BigTex

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    As you note the under dash socket changed on the trouble light too, so there's an "early and late" on that item..
     
  20. nerofer

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    Some sellers are really getting crazy these days with 3x8 tools or luggage, so the answer is: anyone's guess. There is a tool roll that has been for sale from Italy on E-bay for a few weeks for $750 which I think is absurd.

    But our fellow F-Chatter Alberto in Italy has brand new 328 tool rolls manufactured exactly on original specs, dimensions, material, even original Fiocchi rivets and snaps...for about $200.

    Of course it depends for what car this roll is, there has been a few different patterns, notably for the pliers' pocket(s).

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  21. Jeff328

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  22. nerofer

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    Tool roll is for cars up to the late production QVs:
    it has the two smaller pockets just at the left of the spark-plug tool pocket (which spark-plug tool pocket is the last one at right) for the "smaller handle" pliers.
    Late production QVs and 328s had the "larger handle" pliers, with bigger plastic sheaths on the handles, so needed one single large pocket for the pliers, instead of two.

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  23. Jeff328

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    I could use that cover also, as the one with #22127 came to me damaged...there's a piece cut out of the edge!!

    *shrugs shoulders*

    I guess I should have these rusty Everest wrenches replated!!
     
  25. GrayTA

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    Wish I could swing getting the light from you. I am missing that and a screwdriver, but am not sure if the light would have really come with my 85 QV??




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