Off-Topic: Searching for a Jaguar E-Type Roadster (1961-1972 stick):

I would disagree with the above assessment. In my opinion, prices on good E-Types are increasing. My money is on the Series 2 cars: now that many buyers are priced out of the Series 1 cars, they are looking to the S2.

In other words, the guy who was looking to get into an great S1 for 100K, is now completely priced out of the market, except for basketcase cars. 100K will now buy you a fully restored S2 OTS, and soon that will look cheap.

 

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I agree with the above.......Unless there's a huge correction in collectable cars, across the board, my guess is that e-type prices are going nowhere but up. At least good S1's.

If more basket cases are on the market now you can thank the value of nice cars.

Once you factor in a resto I think you have spent the same amount.

 

And we have a winner! I concur, but having just restored an S1 OTS, am potentially biased by aching wallet syndrome.

Having recently spent 2 straight days talking to real people, real judges, real collectors at the SF concours, they feel that 'junk' S1s have moved into the $50grand range (still stupid money) yet the problem with junk is the same as F cars, Porsches, et al of 'sophisticated' brand-specific engineering:

The cost to restore is rather nutty, in the $200k zone depending but it establishes a standard. If prices drop below resto costs, then resto shops have no business case. As it stands, the good ones are full.

Yes, it can all change. I remember the 80's run up very well indeed. Had an E type S1 at the exact moment in time. The new plateau is significantly higher, far more years established. Yet Chris, just like the stopped clock is right two times per day, you can 'wait it out' and be right. Or you can buy now and be driving. Always that choice.

 

Don't know if the ad is legitimate, but a '69 XKE roadster with wire wheels is for sale.

 

Hi,

FWIW that's true about the for sale adverts in the US, but you can also just register for Jag-Lovers (Jag-lovers - the Jaguar Enthusiasts' premier Internet site) and it does not cost you a dime!

Yes, visually it's unimpressive, but the resources are huge, the folks (like me) have been in there for two decades and in general everyone is open and use their real names, or well known pseudonyms. it's actually an old school e-mail list with a forum-like software running, openess is partly thanks that google and other search engines do not work there, as it's not really HTML except for browsing. Their own search engine does work well, but photos have to be max 200kb in file size.

You will not find many 1971 roadsters, for whatever reason Jag mostly produced 2+2's that year and the OTS (Open Two Seater = roadster) production did not get going until 1972.
Then 1973 came the big bumpers and more smog and energy crisis etc.

Mine is an Euro spec 1972, (1S20183) I never liked white, but any colour works on that body, so that's what I have, and I will never, ever sell that car. My wife and kids may sell her, but only after I am gone.

Cheers,

Pekka T. (Ex. JAG-66, current JAG-72 and JAG-50 and a few other cars, like a 456 GT)
Fin.

 

And I did put my money where my mouth is. The car that I alluded to very early in this thread, ended up coming to me on consignment. I had been staring at the car for years in our storage facility, and when the owner said "you should drive it", I did, and I was done.

I bought it from him soon afterward. It's not for sale, at least not right now: 1971 Jaguar E-Type ? M. Brandon Motorcars

I've done some sorting on it: tuning the Webers, changing fluids, fixing a few things that resulted from sitting for a few years. It's absolutely amazing. I love my Ferraris, but this E-Type just speaks to me in a different way than any Italian car, and it's addicting.

 

It's a beauty!

gp

 

Considering you started this thread 2/14, and we're rapidly approaching 2016, you have a lot of patience.

Just so you don't think I'm throwing stones......I looked for a year and a half to meet my criteria. A '65-'67, California, OTS, one owner car......and I found it.

Good luck

 

I agree 100% with that statement......they are addictive cats

 

I signed up 2 weeks ago and am still not able to post on it........its very confusing....
each time I post I get an email saying my post can't be posted??

 

Hi,

I am sorry, I am no admin, but I think I can at least ask an admin if you allow me to do so. Please feel free to PM me your message, it is essentially an e-mail list, so I would need your e-mail address, probably nothing more. (AFAIK only the e-mail address needs to match)

Have you been able to login successfully at all? If you use the web interface (a web browser and not an e-mail client) you need to login first.

Cheers,

Pekka T.
Fin.

 

pm sent

 

Agreed.

Is the OP also the gentleman 'Christopher' that looked for a glass 308GTB for like, 2-3 years? More? I could be wrong, but didn't you wait for those to come down also?

This doesn't look like quite the fire sale you're hoping for:

Fine Automobile Auctions - Keno Brothers
$418k with commission.

I realize you're looking for a different variant, but this is a rather healthy representative, directly linked.

Perhaps some other sales indicated a plateau. Yet to chide owners and say you "told us so", I don't think any of us needed to be told that history repeats, and cycles are just that.

Many of us remember the late 80's, many others followed muscle cars down a dark trail in 2007.

Personally - so this is only me I'm talking about - I'd not forward you a lead in good faith since it appears you'd be either low-balling or waiting for some urgent distress sale.

Sure, if you wait long enough, you totally, absolutely, unquestionably will see prices drop. And if that's your MO, then that's great, wishing you the best.

Yet it'll take a seriously motivated owner who has just spent $175k+ on a restoration to take the blood bath you wish for, or to prey upon a long-time owner in misery. I just can't get excited about that with you.

Unsubscribing for my health and well-being.

 

AHudson said it all. I follow the E-Type market quite carefully, and I am not seeing a drop in prices whatsoever. In fact, as has been predicted and we have discussed, Series 2 cars are increasing in price, and I know for a fact that great cars are selling for prices in the six figures.

 

Agreed. I thought of bailing on my S1 FHC for a like S2 FHC but doesn't seem realistic now.

Bought my car 10 years ago under $20K, I recently turned down a $70k offer for it.

 

Christopher,

I'm enjoying the commentary as well, and you sound like the kind of guy I would like to have a beer with and discuss cars.

I think what we are all trying to tell you is that, if you want a car, don't wait too long. I can't tell you how many people call me up and say "I'm looking for a great 308/328, low mileage, fully documented, concours condition. I'm looking to spend about $40,000." I have to tell them that that ship has sailed, and they are inevitably surprised and disappointed, because they can't afford their dream car anymore.

Could prices fall? Sure they could. But, I study these markets all day long, and in some areas, like the aforementioned 308/328 market, I feel prices are levelling off, after a doubling (if not tripling) over the past 18 months. Conversely, the E-Type S2 market is rapidly gaining steam, at least from my observations.