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  1. BLACK HORSE

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    Well said....
     
  2. NürScud

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    I totally agree with you about the price. It is actually as you said a 3D printed model and not a hand made in a way we all know.

    I also agree with you when you say that with Amalgam's price you can buy better ones.

    Now, about BBR, the only thing that i personally find unattractive is that all of their models are sealed..and that's not good, because BBR really knows how to built great 1/18 models.
     
  3. moriaan1

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    Opening up resin models like the 1:18 BBR's is not an option, the model will become to fragile and expensive to make.
    The reason they make them in resin is the cost, numbers needed to make it profitable are small. If you want to open up a 1:18 it needs to be in metal which would require a very large production. They tried it with the 430 and Enzo, but I think the cost were to high looking back..

    In 1:43 I think BBR does a great job making new classic Ferrari's.
    I still prefer the old ones, they are more artistic. The new ones are like small amalgams.

    Hans
     
  4. Martin308GTB

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    Hans,
    I totally agree. Unfortunately we are quite alone with this opinion.
    A few years ago I tried to start a discussion called 'Cold precision vs. the charm of the imperfection'.
    Most people voted for 'cold precision'.

    Best Regards from Germany
    Martin
     
  5. ferrariguy

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    Martin, Hans

    You can count me in the 'Charm of the Imperfection' camp. The classic real cars were far from perfect and I prefer the models I collect to be the same
     
  6. dmj

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    I consider the changes that came to modelcar world with usage of computers and now 3D scanning not dissimilar with changes brought in 19th century with invention of photography. Modelling a car in scale was same like painting up to that point: combination of the art and documentation of the time. Great modelcar makers expressed themselves through models they made and they are works of art. Less talented ones made just the good (or sometimes bad) models, but with passing of time even those gained certain charm. After computers took over the job it is the opposite, just like what happened with photography 150 years ago: more detailed and accurate, sure, but very rarely works of art.
    So yes, old models were much more interesting. Not talking just about Conti/Amalgam level, same applies to all the kinds of models. Always will prefer a Mebetoys/Politoys to Minichamps or Ixo, just like a Penny or Speedy is more interesting than 1/64 Kyosho. Also it is hard not to admire the way how Corgi or Dinky managed to pinpoint certain feature of a car and expose it, extracting the important just like a good painter would do. I do buy and collect modern models, the makers are filling the gaps nicely, releasing the cars I like and want to have - but my heart is deeply affected to old ones. Somehow they were - when good - able to catch the spirit of a car much better than super detailed new ones. It's not just a rant - it's logical difference of the philosophy and way how the models were used to be made and how they are made now.
     
  7. moriaan1

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  9. furoni

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    Love the TDF...
     
  10. moriaan1

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    :) me too!!
     
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  12. tomgt

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    :) Amalgam is imho not on same level as Conti.
    Conti was a master craftsman, very small series or one-offs scratch built, Amalgam is like Maisto, CMC, Kyosho etc..made in China in large series. Prices are steep.
    Amalgam make 100% perfect beautifull large scale models anyway.
    I think Kyosho/TSM/Autoart/CMC could make a 1/8 for half price.
     
  13. dmj

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    I truly agree. At the highest level same rules are valid as at the lower ones. :)
     
  14. moriaan1

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    Stunning Hans, is the Lusso based on the AMR kit?
     
  16. moriaan1

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    Lusso is based on amr by Brauer in the early 90's
     
  17. gt4me

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    It's beautiful, I built the standard AMR Lusso around 25 years ago.
    Didn't look too much like that :)
     
  18. Lusso123

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    Oh Hans those are stunning! I especially like the Lusso and the 375 Spyder.
     
  19. F1tommy

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    Wow, great Ferrari models. Brauer is an amazing modeler.
     
  20. furoni

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    Amazing hans, what's the third car? seems like a 250 gte spyder?
     
  21. moriaan1

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    thanks gentlemen,

    the 375plus is new modelart kit built and opened up by my Spanish friend Juan Madrazo a.k.a. drakstar ;-)

    Over the last year I sold a lot of resin models (bbr and alike) to make these possible.
    There are a few more coming over the next few months ;-)

    Hans
     
  22. furoni

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    I must say it must have been a hard decision to sell all those models but watching at these models you must be very happy with that, they are something very, very special indeed......i myself i'm thinking of selling part of my collection to buy some more exclusive (not comparable to yours of couse) models, in the end, i believe less with better quality will always beat more with less quality.
     
  23. moriaan1

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    Less is more (allthough not in $$$$)

    Its virtually impossible to have a complete collection ( I like the number of models small)
    A Ferrari House (home full of models) is not for me...I like it small but special :)
     
  24. furoni

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    Yap, and the samaller the collection is, the easyer it is to display, and a well displayed collection is very important, at least to me.
     

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