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  1. LostAussie

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  2. Paloalto00

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    I was flying out in person to inspect the vehicle, problem is he wanted a nonrefundable deposit before I did so. I personally would not let a deal fall through because a buyer wanted an inspection, I would welcome it to show I have nothing to hide.

    When I sold my Z06, I never asked for a deposit. His flight itinerary showed me he was serious enough

    @daytona355, Haha! I'm still trying to figure out how he got a show with Discovery Channel
     
  3. texasmr2

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    A totally fishy seller in my opinion so consider yourself lucky and move on. I do not own a Ferrari so my opinion is rather mute but you can find a quality Ferrari on this website that is well/super maintained and could meet your price range. You may have to adjust your model requirements but you would be getting a quality vehicle.

    Take your time and best of luck.
     
  4. Paloalto00

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    #29 Paloalto00, Dec 16, 2015
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    This seems like a great community so I have no doubt about that, but after reviewing the gated market. I believe a well gated would be outside my budget unfortunately
     
  5. BJJ

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    I find it even more silly to agree on a price and then have a PPI done (what do the Ps stand for???).

    Either whatever is "agreed" on is nonbinding for both or binding. Then also for both. So, if your PPI would have exhibited an excellent condition, you would have allowed the seller to raise the price above what was "agreed" on???? :D
     
  6. Paloalto00

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    Pre-purchase, I see what you're getting at BUT a purchase is "acquire (something) by paying for it; buy." No many switched hands yet
     
  7. texasmr2

    texasmr2 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Hey they put up with me which speaks volumes!! LOL

    We are all car people here and some if not most, at one time, learned that patience is a necessary requirement in car kingdom. Nobody here wants to see another car person get "skewered" (play on PC) so taking your time is the best advice you will receive.
     
  8. Patrick Dixon

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    This is the way it works when buying property in the UK. You generally agree a price and then get a survey/valuation done, if the survey turns up anything unexpected then that is a basis for negotiation.

    Since surveys cost money, no one really wants to do one until an agreement to buy and sell has been made.
     
  9. BJJ

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    Well I suppose that people in the UK do not buy property unseen by clicking the "buy it now" button on eBay. At least in Germany the courts are quite clear about what your obligations are as soon as you have clicked this button. Doesn´t eBay even ask you "are you sure"? I did not look there for years, but in former times this was so.
     
  10. texasmr2

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    1. The OP has blatantly left out origin/location but observation leads one to believe it is in the US.
    2. Real estate is it's own monster and in reality has nothing to do with buying toys vs life necessity's.
     
  11. BJJ

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    #36 BJJ, Dec 16, 2015
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    I may be wrong, but the evidence presented suggests that this was an eBay auction? What would happen if you bid and win at a "regular" auction and then tell the guys that you will pay and take the car only after a PPI (here then "Post Purchase Inspection :D) to your full satisfation?

    May be different in the US, but here you would be taken to court and have to compensate damage (e.g. the price difference, if sold to the second-highest bidder, i.e. if he takes it). Buyers remorse is not considered a "right" ;). Not to speak of the so-called "fun-bidders" (literal translation from German, I do not know whether this phrase exists in English, it means poeple, who bid at eBay just for the thrill and never ever have the intention of actually buying anything, that was my experience in my long ago attempt as a private seller via eBay).
     
  12. texasmr2

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    I do not believe there is any difference between us regarding a eBay sale and that was not my intent, my apology if I was unclear, we are on the same page. Regarding eBay if you place a bid you lock yourself in at that sale price so caution is ones best friend.

    I keep my eBay sales to car models ie "the safe zone".
     
  13. Carfella

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    I am Mike From Hollywood Motors and This Guy Complains About Everyone, I checked His YELP Profile, When Does He Realize He is the Problem, HE DROVE ME CRAZY for a Week , He PURCHASED THE CAR THROUGH EBAY !!! He obviously Can't Read the Rules !!! I even Think he Got a DISHONARABLE Discharge From The Air force !!! I would Like Anyone to come see the Ferrari I have !!! This guy just likes to play Games
     
  14. Patrick Dixon

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    There are probably some. They are probably the same people buying Ferraris and other classic cars at ever inflated prices.

    I'm pretty sure that in the UK no one ever got sued for not completing an eBay auction purchase. As a seller you would just move on.
     
  15. 88Testarossa

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    #40 88Testarossa, Dec 16, 2015
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    Please, don't SHOUT.
     
  16. BladeMD

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    Mike,

    I appreciate you taking the time to come here and give your side of things.

    If I wanted to have a PPI done on this car, I would negotiate a price first.... But I would ask for all receipts that came with car, carfax, list of all accessories and modifications before I even made an offer. I suspect most Ferrari buyers would do the same as it not like buying a Honda.

    So, let's make this easy... Post a PDF of the above and make it clear that you will allow a PPI "without a deposit" at buyers expense. It would help market your car, and show you're not the ******-type of car salesman that would insist on "deposits" before a PPI on a Ferrari.
     
  17. Themaven

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    I've always thought that if you buy a car at auction, you're on your own. You can sniff around on the viewing day, and look at the history on the day, on eBay you can go visit and do a PPI or whatever due diligence prior to bidding. But once you bid, and win, it's yours, baby, like it or not. Unless there's a very clear demonstration it's not as advertised, eg wrong engine, mileage, stolen when claimed not, or whatever.

    I bought a Testa at auction and it needed work on corrosion on suspension, exhaust, etc because I couldn't put it on a ramp to see. Otherwise it was just as described. I didn't think of complaining. Buyer beware. Just had to have it fixed.

    Not really sure what the whole story is here. But vendor could certainly do with turning off the caps lock, as a PR message.
     
  18. Nospinzone

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    Very interested in hearing the other side of the story, please elaborate. Simply writing he "Can't Read the Rules !!!" doesn't explain anything.
     
  19. vrsurgeon

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    So did you let him get a Pre-purchase inspection at Ferrari of Long Island or Universal? Sounds like you didn't like that idea.. and not just from this guy but also from a buyer I was working with that was very interested in the car. I would think that with good will you'd consent to a PPI even after the purchase even if he did buy it on ebay...

    Ferrari buyers, even legit ones, are going to want to take things more carefully.
     
  20. vrsurgeon

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    It means that when you click the "Buy Now Button" you have to pay and buy an item, even if it is misrepresented (not saying it wasn't) and then deal with eBay in a long drawn out process to get your money back.

    Most reasonable people say no worries and then at worst ask the seller for the listing fees.
     
  21. flat_plane_eddie

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    I did speak with this seller a few weeks ago and I told him that my offer would be contingent on doing a PPI and he said that wouldn't be a problem. Not sure whom I spoke to but they seemed pretty open to it.
     
  22. jwt73

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    I too tried to buy this car, and TRIED to schedule a PPI, but he informed me that he had a wire coming and he was not going to do a PPI. I said if it doesn't work out let me know. He called me back a few days later and then I said again deal at 67500.00 HIS BOTTOM line, BUT I wanted a PPI (FOR SURE) done......No response to this day.
    Not sure what to make of it, but the hair on my back is still standing. I guess I like dealing with private sellers.
    Jonathan
     
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  23. jwt73

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    Thanks Curt......I'm the guy you are working with.
    JWT
    ;)
     
  24. Carfella

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    This was an eBay transaction. He already hit the BUY IT NOW and bought the car. It clearly states that the buyer must leave a 1000.00 deposit upon hitting the buy it now. Now maybe it's his ignorance or he was just trying to back out of a car he can not afford, but he refused to do that and then asked for a PRE PURCHASE inspection... PRE PURCHASE! Which he would have no problem getting, had he asked PRE PURCHASE. I would have even gotten it AFTER the sale... but he didn't want to leave a deposit. Hollywood motors has an impeccable reputation. This moron wants to slander that because he doesn't understand business, rules and what PRE means. He then went on other sites stating that many people in Ferrari Forum was bashing me claiming that I screwed them over as well. This young 23 yr old is a liar and enjoys giving bad reviews as you can see from his ebay... im_mikey_irock that he also told someone they must be smoking something if they think their car will sell for that He is an out and out liar who is bored and broke and dreamt of owning a Ferrari but realized he couldn't. ALL of the real reviews of Hollywood Motors on our FB page tell the true story of what we are about. I built Hollywood Motors from nothing and made it one of the most successful classic Car dealerships around. You don't get to where I am by screwing people over you ! Think about that the next time you TRY to bash someone and their business that you know nothing about. EVERYONE that I deal with gets treated with respect and courtesy. I do everything I can to keep customers and potential customers happy, it would be bad business not to, and that's NOT what I am about. You do not know anything about business, obviously,or you would have stuck to your eBay purchase and send a deposit. This Ferrari is beautiful and I described it accurately! You are just a little boy who made a mistake and now wants to blame the other person. You must be one of this generations cry babies that got a trophy for everything and now feels entitled. Get over it, you made a mistake and COMMITMENT by clicking BUY IT NOW.
     
  25. Carfella

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    #50 Carfella, Dec 16, 2015
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    Mr. Nieves has a habit of giving bad reviews when he doesn't get his way. Here's another one of his raving reviews on another dealer's FB page....

    Michael Nieves reviewed CCCP Auto Center LLC. —
    1 star
    December 8 at 10:14am ·

    "I didn't like their price, so I was taunted. Good luck with your business"

    Like, I said, I pride myself on my reputation and work very hard at my business and it really gets me pissed when someone is out of line and tries to ruin that.
     

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