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MD CLUTCHES, anyone have one installed?

Discussion in '348/355' started by FLORIDAsnakeEyes, Dec 20, 2015.

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  1. FLORIDAsnakeEyes

    FLORIDAsnakeEyes Formula 3
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    I just bought the new flywheel from them. No messing with grease and springs.

    Anyone else have this cool mod? Claims to half the weight, increase quicker RPM rev.

    Excited, more toys.
     
  2. Joshieburger

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    Do they offer it for the 348 yet? Ive been waiting but they have only had it for the 355's
     
  3. FLORIDAsnakeEyes

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    I don't think so. Said 2015 for it?.. You should email them. Seem like good folks.
     
  4. F355Bob

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    Can you change the flywheel and keep the stock clutch? Do you need to buy the adapter shown on their website?
     
  5. lotusk

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    #5 lotusk, Dec 21, 2015
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    This is very interesting.

    Please let us know the difference in performance after fitted.

    I like the idea of quicker rpm's

    Is there any downside?

    Never did really understand why the 355 flywheel is so complicated with springs and plastic bits flying around and precise amount of only one type of grease...dislike the chattering sound it makes also when shutting engine off.
     
  6. redwedge

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    I have their Kevlar clutch and also bought a refurb flywheel from them. I have nothing but good things to say. Let us know what the new kit is like.
     
  7. PAP 348

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    +1
     
  8. Mitch Alsup

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    Many people have tried over the past 15 years to get rid of the dual-mass flywheel. Most of them have had to replace the drive shaft after it broke.
    Unless these guys are doing something different....................
     
  9. cf355

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    (thats not good)
     
  10. m.stojanovic

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    Changing to solid flywheel and using a solid hub clutch disc is not a good idea. With a solid flywheel, the clutch disc must be with a spring dampened hub, preferably a clutch disc having long travel damper system (to perform the function of the fairly long travel dampening of the dual mass flywheel).
     
  11. SoCal1

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    I believe he is using modded 360 clutches last time we spoke

    If I ever get around to my major in the spider they are going in there
     
  12. lotusk

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    MD Clutches sell a sprung friction plate for their flywheel.
    It is a modified 360 one.

    They advise on their site to use this as they have found weak spots in the drive shaft...


    "We have produced a basic road and race replacement option. You will need a generic hub, a road or race flywheel, bearing and mounting bolts. Whilst it will work with a standard friction plate, that is harsh and the drive shaft has some weak spots we have identified, so advise using our new sprung unit."

    What's the view on this.....something that will add to the motor's performance?
     
  13. INTMD8

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    As with most everything, it is a bit of a trade off.

    Lighter flywheel takes less power to accelerate so you have more power available to the wheels during acceleration and better throttle response. Not a huge performance gain but measurable. Less weight however means less stored energy and this can make it difficult to pull away easily from a stoplight.

    (drive a road race car with a very light flywheel and grabby multi plate clutch, best have your game on and some rpm's going).

    Hard to say. Tempting to try it!
     
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    Having spoken to Andrew of MD Clutches at length when I bought my kevlar clutch plate from them, there is no way he'd sell a product that leads to a snapped driveshaft. I wouldn't be surprised if the new flywheel has been tested in his own 355 that he campaigns in hill climbs - worth asking if you're worried about durability.
     
  17. SoCal1

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    Do it !!!!
    Make sure your rev limiter is working, You will also find a lot of other reciprocating mass to play with after that.
    9000 rpm big blocks LOL


    I love clutch packs
     
  18. lotusk

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    Will do Charlie

    Sounding really good
     
  19. lotusk

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    I am not an engineer...can you please help....

    What are we to expect regarding engine response, etc from a solid flywheel with half the weight of the very strange darth vader dual mass thingy as fitted by the factory in 355's?

    Am i going to get significant quick rpm increases when on the throttle and when lifting off the throttle will the revs decrease quickly?
     
  20. SoCal1

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    I'm not an engineer either, I quite school in the 8th grade LOL

    It gives the engine faster response to on and off throttle as the motor has less mass to get going.

    Also less mass will slow forward inertia, torque.

    Kind of like a fat girl vs skinny girl. Skinny girl will work you over fat chick will drop the maul on you :)

    For a street car I would leave it alone.

    I have not tested his setup yet but looks promising.
     
  21. lotusk

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    Are you saying for street car stick with oem dual mass flywheel?
     
  22. SoCal1

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  24. lotusk

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    The reaon for the yup being.....less torque with the lighter flywheel?
     
  25. FLORIDAsnakeEyes

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    Yes, this is also part of the package I have coming (360 disk). And yes I did buy the hub too.
     

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