talk me out of selling...or in to it.

Perhaps Newman, its just the Canadian market thats taken a breather .... can't really comment on that, but over here in Europe and UK its still going strong .... If its examples you want, well i have just sold my Dino GTS for the full asking price and my 512TR for very close to the same..... and they were on the market exactly 4 weeks!
Of course the music will stop at some stage....we all know it always does, until the next round.

I think the early 308's are next in line for a really big step up ,to fill the huge void in price now left by the Dino 246. Can a Dino 246 really be worth 4 or 5 times a good 308GTB??
My guess is that we will be paying $250-$300k for vetro's and $150-180k for the best early steel GTB's, and considering that totally normal, over the next 24 months (baring some financial disaster, obviously).

Therefore if i was the OP's investment manager, i would most certainly advise him to hold his current cards. However, i stand by my initial post, that the 360 is a fine car that still has sufficient 'old school Ferrari feel' about it (in manual form at least) and can be enjoyed in a very different way to the 308 .....

BR,
Jez

 

Nice photo, Ward. You have to admit though, that the 360 Spider is a lot of Ferrari experience for the current money.
Having made a similar Ferrari journey to yourself, (only starting with a 360 Spider) .... i am more or less at peace with myself now, with a combination of Carb 308's and an early 355 Berlinetta ..... feels like the right balance to me!!
BR,
Jez

 

I thought about selling my 308 QV GTB after I bought a 328 GTS. I just can't let it go. I wouldn't mind a 360, but I'm out of space and can't let either 3 go. To me, the 308 has more of the over all vintage feel.

 

Drive a few 360's first..really drive them. Both f1 and 6 speed. Overnight if possible.

The 360 is a great car, fast and fun. But..it does not have the solid feel of the 308/328 cars. Not by a mile. The 308 is a slug and so is the 328. But they have a serious charm to them that just can't be explained until you don't have it anymore.

I love the sounds the 308's/328 make. So mechanical, that sort of gear/whining noise they make when shoving off in first gear is so good. The deep idle that kinda drones in your ears, never mind how time less the design is.

The newer stuff just IMHO doesn't have that feel to them. I'm rambling..

 

...just curious....why do u want to restore it? It looks like its in great original condition - it's original only once... ; ) - originality is part of the charm - anything can be made new again....


Anthony

 

Actually I can name several. I have a few dealer friends that focus on these cars (3X8s) and are selling strong cars relatively quickly. Many of the lesser cars are simply overpriced.

 

I take my 328 to FOG drives with the guys. I don't have any problem keeping up in the twisties, but they do pull away with a bit of a straight. I love the sound and the smell of the engine just right after a spirited drive. There is such charm and beauty in those flowing lines.

I have not felt the same with any of the 360 except for the CS and that is now in the stratosphere. Don't get rid of the 308, you will miss it.

 

I never really understand these threads. Do you really need other's advice? The 360 is a great car. I'm sure you will enjoy it. The 308 is a great car. I know you have enjoyed it. Just do what you think is best for you. Life is too short to look over your shoulder and think about what you could have or should have done, or moving forward, listening to what other people think is right for you. Blaze your own trails. You only you know what is right for you.

 

The only 360 I'd sell for would be a Stradale. The normal 360, while still a great car, is every where. They made so many of them they are an everyday sight.

 

my suggestion...keep the 308 for the reasons we all know...vintage feel, etc, etc....and get an E46 M3 if what you want is an affordable (less than 1/2 of a 360) glued to the tarmac , very fast modern sport car. my $0.2 cheers

 

My 2 cents: don't ever compare 308/355/360/430 or any other type. It doesn't work that way, I think. Horsepower is addictive. The difference in power/handling between a 308 and a 360 is huge. As is the difference between a 360 and a 430. Should you own a 360 in the near future and would try a 430 one day the whole story starts all over again. Let alone the addicting torque of the V12's, should you one day have a taste of them... It never ends.

Look at a certain model for what it means, what it stands for. My #19055 is iconic, rare, a '70's thoroughblood. And has an awkward driving position and is not really fast, as is yours. 430/458's (360 a bit less) are modern looking & handling powerhouses. I find the modern high-revving V8's entoxicating.. I however understand (I think) your thoughts: I look at my car with admiration, love, big smile's and every year I drive it less. I would sell my car of someone was willing to pay really top dollar for it, get me a 430 spider (stick, of course), knowing that after a few months I think/feel/breathe "599" and would track the sh*t out of them both. For horsepower addicted, amateur racers like me it never ends..

But as stated above: follow your heart ! "Regret" is such a useless feeling/emotion..Do what you want/can and don't look back.

And the last place that I would expect to get some "useful" advice is here on Fchat.. ;-)

The overall solution is buy whatever Ferrari you want, without selling one. I, unless I sell the Vetro, can only afford one. So no "overall" solution for me..

 

If you feel you had your time with the 308 (mabe became somewhat 'boring ' ) pull the trigger and go for it, 360's are awesome, I drove one 3 weeks ago, a manual shift and a Spider, loved it !

cheers
Johnny

 

Good idea....

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The 308s will be worth more, but with maintenance the "net" will be almost zero, IMO.
Eventually they will cost a fortune and there's not many folks left to fix them.

 

Exactly what I did when it came to buy another car. I wanted another fcar but did not want to sell the 308 to get it. I was looking at 348s and 360s. However, buying another two seat car was not going to an be easy sell to the family and a maintaining a 456 scared me a bit. so went for a low miles, immaculate e46 M3 as a family friendly alternative that was not too computerized. I like it. However the performance of the e46 is not comparable with 360 imo. For 360 performance, it would have to be an e90 or later.

I would not sell the 308 if I were you. Buying both and then selling one or other after 12 months seems like good advice.

David

 

I agree, although the 308 offers a driving experience I miss. The money involved with these cars still isn't anywhere near the vintage market -- easy enough to keep one without justifying it every day.

360s are fine, but when you get to the modern cars I think I'd go for a 458 (or at least step up to an F430 for the timing chain and better performance.)

And this. Although 308s still seem to be selling here -- if the asking prices are realistic. Lower mileage 308s are in demand.

+308

Nothing like them being made anymore. I like the simple targa top -- compared to modern open top cars that are overly complicated.

 

I have a Dino gt4 at a Cars and Coffee some months ago I got the chance to drive a 360 while the owner of the 360 and his buddy took my Dino for a ride. I took Rich - an Alfa Club friend - with me and when I got back my comment to him was it drove great but my 82 year old mother could take it to the grocery store. It was incredibly fast but it really wasn't "special" to drive. On the other hand, both the 360 owner and his buddy were laughing like fools after driving the Dino and both commented on how involved the driver was and how intimate the Dino was compared to his 360. Modern cars are fabulous but lack a certain driver involvement.

 

I was in the same boat 7 years ago and went from a 308 to a 360. Honestly I love the 360 and would not go back. As others have said drive a 360 and see how you like it.

 

I see....thanks for clarifying....I understand your feelings - whatever makes you happy is what you should do!

Anthony

 

Whats realistic? I just looked on ebay and theres no shortage of 308's and I couldn't believe the number of 328s for sale!

Lower mileage anything I think is in demand.

Whats funny is the number of years I watched the owners on this site devalue their own cars almost daily! Im sure you recall that too and how many were never fixed right because of depressed values. Tough to find a great correct example today and thats the car that will get the money.

 

IMO it's really a matter of the experience you're wanting. The 308 is a piece of history, a chance to revel in an icon. With that comes the limits of what was available at that point in history. But, that's part of the charm.

A 360 or any of the more modern Fcars are enchanting in their own ways, but for different reasons.

Which car really moves your soul? That's the real question to answer. Just my $0.02.

 

17 308's on eBay

19 328's on eBay

Not a huge difference unless you compare the ratio of 308's produced compared to the 328

 

................and.........58.....360's on eBay this morning. That is spelled out fifty-eight.