Test Drove the 488 Today. Cancelled my Order, Sticking to my 458

Depends on if you pay normal prices for batteries or Ferrari prices. These cars don't really need that much battery power. NA + battery is total viable for any Ferrari so long a Ferrari doesn't mind normal margins on them.

 

Look I prefer NA engines myself due to their throttle response and sound. I would have been happier if Ferrari made a bit larger V-8 or better still, went V-10 (these sound glorious) for the 488. Even if Ferrari fell short of Mclaren's turbo performance (but by just a little), these NA Ferraris would still be far more desirable.

But emissions regulation meant the bigger engines are not feasible, thus the move to turbocharging - a 2 birds with 1 stone solution as it allows them to easily make-up for the bhp deficit to the competition while meeting emissions regs.

Faced with this reality, Ferrari developed a gem of a turbo motor which without any basis, you bill as cheap, easy to build, has a lower state of tune, etc. compared to the old 458 motor. Really now...is that how Ferrari builds engines (NA or otherwise), going back the technology curve instead of advancing?

The 488 doesn't sound as good as many NA engines and if that kills it for you, that's understandable. But for many, performance takes precedence over sound, thank God. Do you think Ferrari will retain its market edge for long if the upcoming Mclaren P14 slots 2 performance classes above the 488 for less money? If that happens, not even a screaming V-10 sound can prevent a market erosion. Right or wrong, too many think faster is better.

I'd criticize the the 488 for its aluminum chassis. Mclaren certainly has the better solution there. But as far as engines go, Ferrari is still king, NA or otherwise.

 

I have no argument with this. Some will move to V12s and V10s. The market will decide. As some have expressed here: if l wanted a Mac or a 911 l would have bought one.

 

Hmmm, I think I'm done debating this. You're just making noise and repeat yourself.

Upwards and onwards.

 

^ This.

 

The 488 is faster, has got a better infotainment system and looks way better.
Just the sound is some less aggressive (the screaming of the 458 isn't everyone's favorite as well). The best among the Turbo driven competetion around though.
Keeping a 458 for the Collection, may be. Never instead of a 488.

 

I'm sure this video has probably been on Ferrari chat before, but it is pretty good to watch again.

I think Chris is pretty thorough on a lot of the stuff being discussed here and gets into the 'sound' a few times.

http://youtu.be/qlvMRTQ6-X0


Cars:

2013 Ferrari 458 Spider (Daily Driver)

Ordered: 2017 Lotus Evora 400

 

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Other than response, turbocharging’s other great crime is destroying intake noise. Recirculating those gasses turns beautiful music into fevered whooshing, and Ferrari has gone to great lengths – quite literally in the case of the intakes – to create a decent sound. And it has succeeded. All of this stuff is subjective, but this is recognisibly a flat-lane cranked V8. Its intake is less harsh than the old car’s, and its exhaust valving less rigid – the 458 use to do that terrible 3000rpm silence-to-bwwaaaaaaarrrpp even on tiny throttle openings. In my opinion, the 488 makes a better noise than a 458, and it is underscored by a delicious wheeshing of turbo under full-load.
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Chris Harris, June 04, 2015

 

Is 488 really "much" faster than Speciale?
https://youtu.be/4NcD-qWagHA

 

Give it up mik...you're starting to sound pathetic.

 

well said

 

No matter what engine they come out with and how loud it is.......all you guys are going to throw an after market exhaust on top of it anyway!

Nothing is EVER loud enough.


Cars:

2013 Ferrari 458 Spider (Daily Driver)

Ordered: 2017 Lotus Evora 400

 

Didn't you buy a 458 last spring?

 

+1

 

I don't think volume is the issue. Its the quality of the sound that's in question.

 

Best post in the last 15 pages.

 

True, lawnmowers are also loud. The problem with turbocharged is that it can be loud, but it just won't scream like race cars. I have never seen any turbocharged sounded better than it's own replaced NA, like Pagani, M5, Porsche, and now Ferrari.
But put it this way, if later on, all race cars also don't scream, maybe people will forget it.

 

The next models' engine is the cheapest here, it'd easily be an extra boost. Any customs store can do it for you. Some people say that it won't last, but so far I have never seen any modified GTR with serious engine problem. There is a VW Golf with 700 hp has been around for 2 years and still kicking.

 

Full revving sound from outside:
http://www.instagram.com/p/BAFcVqMuG8E/

 

I really like the white/black cars.


Cars:

2013 Ferrari 458 Spider (Daily Driver)

Ordered: 2017 Lotus Evora 400

 

488 GTB and Mclaren 570S, sound comparison. I don't think 488 has the best sound for turbocharged car.

https://youtu.be/WmVSyNkmNOg

 

OK your right what's your next complaint

 

I never thought 670hp could sound so weak. I'm sure it's better sounding when driving and under load.

 

Turbocharged sounds better when revved than driven, because the turbo doesn't boost when revved.