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ATTN TWO 250 FERRARI ENGINES STOLEN

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  1. Fpayntr

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    #1 Fpayntr, Jan 12, 2016
    This Sunday evening two 250 engines were stolen from a workshop in Modena, Italy that I have doing some work for me. They claim the door was broken down and the engines stolen. Somehow the alarm was eluded. Any information would be greatly appreciated. The numbers are 1543GT and 2709GTE.
     
  2. Marcel Massini

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    #3 El Wayne, Jan 12, 2016
    Which has probably already been ground off. :(
     
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  5. Marcel Massini

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    #5 Marcel Massini, Jan 13, 2016
    That is a restamped number already.
    Internal number 880 E relates to 4259 GT (another 250 GTE 2+2).

    Marcel Massini
     
  6. 360modena2003

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    #6 360modena2003, Jan 13, 2016
    Is the shop assuming responsibility?
     
  7. kare

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    #7 kare, Jan 13, 2016
    Incorrect!!! This is an E-series engine block from 1961-62. 880E is a late number built around December 1962, so correct serial number should be something around 29xx-30xx.
     
  8. Fpayntr

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    #8 Fpayntr, Jan 13, 2016
    I already knew that that wasn't the original engine for that particular car. The other 1543 is a numbers matching. The problem is how to find these quickly. I just found out today that both gearboxes were taken as well. The shop claims not to have insurance. Tells me in Italy it is not required
     
  9. thepinkumbrella

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    #9 thepinkumbrella, Jan 14, 2016
    4253 GT has internal number 876/62E so why cannot 4259 GT have 880E?

    Paul
     
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    #10 Marius, Jan 14, 2016
    Oh dear, not good, fingers crossed for you. Strange workshop...
     
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    #11 Fpayntr, Jan 14, 2016
    Seriously guys, I posted here because these engines were stolen! I'm really not so concerned with the sequence of numbers. I was actually hoping for help from the Ferrari community.
     
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    #12 El Wayne, Jan 14, 2016
    And as long as the discussion in this thread is ongoing, your alert stays near the top of the page and is seen by more and more people. We all want you to recover your components and we are all hoping that someone who either has insight into their potential whereabouts, or who is capable of providing sound advice in how to recover them, will see this thread and speak up. If the others stop posting comments here, however, then your thread will be supplanted by more active discussions and will eventually fall off the bottom of the page.
     
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    #13 Fpayntr, Jan 14, 2016
    Point well taken. Thank you, This is just extremely frustrating
     
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    #14 NYC Fred, Jan 14, 2016
    And the shop's alarm was circumvented or "avoided"?

    Search the owner's cousin's garage.
     
  15. cheesey

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    #15 cheesey, Jan 14, 2016
    don't hold your breath...

    there are dark elements in the Ferrari community... motors can easily be camouflaged
    inside a needy body to never be seen again...

    stolen Ferrari like LM4619SA have been missing since the 70's, recently a $1,000,000 reward for its' return has been posted, there are other more recent thefts posted here, none of which have been found and returned to their owners... the post about a 375+ goes on for years, with its' own version of theft and corruption... there are those who will turn a blind eye to bad behavior when it comes to Ferrari cars and parts... there is little that law enforcement can do, unless it falls into their laps... there was a Corvette recently recovered after 40 years, only after there was a question about the registration of the car... it's a shame that are those that condone the perpetuation of corruption
     
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    #16 El Wayne, Jan 14, 2016
    Paul, not looking to derail the thread any further, but you're talking about two different sequences -- the earlier sequence with numbers ending only in "E", and then the later sequence with numbers ending in "/62E". If you have questions, feel free to shoot me an email or PM.
     
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    #17 w.Hudkins, Jan 14, 2016
    Will you provide the name of the shop?
     
  18. Fpayntr

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    #18 Fpayntr, Jan 14, 2016
    The shop is Protauto in Modena Marco Baldi is the owner
     
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    #19 Fpayntr, Jan 14, 2016
    This is the email I received from them


    Hi Brian,
    > Unfortunately i have to inform you that on the evening of the 10th of January at 20.30 (time reported from the control center) burglars introduced themselves in the Modena workshop eluding the alarm system and all the security measures, stealing the two Ferrari California engines that you sent to us, as well as other items they found in the workshop.
    > The police have informed us that to be able to file a police report, your presence or a legal delegate to us (me or my father) is required. We look forward to hearing from you as soon as possible.
    > Yours sincerely, Enzo
     
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    #20 El Wayne, Jan 14, 2016
    This is the same shop that did 0812 and 0814 for Coco Chinetti--likely insured. Have you inquired about their insurance situation? Of course, any insurance carrier will require a police report, and it sounds as though the police are requiring your presence. I imagine it might be worth making the trip.
     
  21. Fpayntr

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    #21 Fpayntr, Jan 14, 2016
    Marco told me that they do NOT have insurance. I'm taking several cars to Cavallino but the day after i will be going to visit. I presently have a lawyer over there trying to help. The shop has alarms and camera yet somehow it was bypassed???? Yet they know the exact time of the break in. Getting answers from here is next to impossible. There can't be too many places to take these engines. I hope if I can put enough pressure they will magically appear. But like the other post said, I won't hold my breath
     
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    #22 tomgt, Jan 15, 2016
    Not the first time....
     
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    #23 PSk, Jan 15, 2016
    All shops that I know of are "store at owners risk". Now of course these are just your normal run of the mill car servicing shops.

    Best of luck for the OP finding his engines.
    Pete
     
  24. kare

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    #24 kare, Jan 15, 2016
    I think it is quite important that you/we are looking for the correct engine - and therefore it is essential to note that 880E (stolen) and 880/62E (s/n 4259) are different units.
     
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    #25 bigodino, Jan 15, 2016
    Just curious, and to keep this thread on top: The shop holder calls them California engines, but they are from a GTE and a PF coupe. Were these engines destined for replicas? I wouldn't be surprised if these stolen engines end up with a(nother) replica builder.
     
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