Hey guys. For those of you who remember. i had an issue with my mileage turning to 555555 as well as other issues. The issue is now solved. This issue was somewhat problematic so here are the specifics/ reasons/ and what to do if u face this problem. After i paid the down payment, so ferrari could order a new cluster. I got a call from them a few days later, saying that the cluster along with the ECU, Computer need to be changed aswell. I asked them not to do so, and since no order was placed i got a refund. Once that was done. I asked ferrari to remove the cluster for me. And i took GCALO's Advice. I sent the cluster to a workshop he recommended in California. The guys over there were great and very easy to work with. they fixed the Dash for me in no time. They send the dash back, and i had ferrari install it and all issues were solved. So thanks alot Greg for ur help. Now the Reasons: It is definitely an electrical problem related to the Battery. the electricals in the ferrari is extremely sensitive, and if anything goes wrong, be sure that the Cluster may get affected. 1) Jump starting the car, May ruin your dash, or turn the milage to 555555 2) Using a battery tender might also cause the milage to malfunction - As we have seen with Masar. 3) My case, I didnt even have anything attached to the battery. i just turned the main switch on and the mileage changed - ( Yes its that sensitive) and Finally Solutions: You need not worry if u face this problem 1) you can either take it to Ferrari and have the whole cluster changed. or 2) you can have the dash removed and send it to a workshop who can fix this issue. If you guys need any info about the Workshop i worked with u can PM or GCALo. for more info. Note: This issue is related to F430 and F360. Im not aware of any other ferrari with this issue. I hope this post was beneficial for those who might need it. Best.
I had a fuse out and the dealer told me to be careful with this could screw up the dash....Bla,bla, 8k for a cluster replacement???
Thanks for this info. As was discussed before i had same problem on my 360, after my battery went dead and i used charger. And i still have this problem = my mileage is still 555555 or actually 555575 after i drove some miles. I had it in Ferrari dealer to be checked and they were not able to fix it with words that propably new cluster is neccessary. I left them without solution and they promised me that they will ask directly people in Italy. it was few weeks ago...... Goldfever, so you say that this workshop can fix it. Can you describe how? I mean they connect it to some computer and make reset? Or they do something else? After they reset it, how is putted back real mileage of car stored in ECU? Sorry i am not native english speaking - if you say dash removed and sent, what do you mean by "dash" exactly? The gauges unit? I think i know someone here who can fix it as well. Thanks!
Dear Masar, ive been through ferrari. U can solve the problem with a change of the instrument cluster unit - around $6-8K. or if u want u can send it to the guys in calofirnia, they are Ferrari specialists. they do it for around $500. When i say Dash i mean the instrument Cluster unit. Which is the whole set of gauges - it comes in one piece. Youre going to have to remove the instrument cluster unit . After you send the unit. through DHL, or UPS etc.. when i sent mine, they changed a small chip inside my dash which went bad after the electrical issue. so they replaced it with a new one. Then they asked me if i remember what was the correct milage, i told them what it was and they resetted it to just that, but im not sure about the exact specifics of the whole process. The Memory of the milage is in the unit not the ECU. make sure you mention the type of your ferrari, and theyll help you out. So after they set the milage on the unit, ur good to go. So all you have to do, is send the instrument Cluster unit, and thell have a look at it. and straighten it out
The Ferraris are fun cars but this bullsh!# with the failures that KILL the customer$$$$$$ Just reminds me about my 355 exhaust manifolds getting holes...You take it to the dealer he fixes $3,500 a side and they fail again in year....The fix is sorted by great aftermarket sources.....Just crap...Luca needs a smack upside the head...Remember his deal was quality and the customer bla,bla, I think I hear my helocopter coming I must go now.....
Thanks a lot for info.I will not buy new cluster. I will try to contact the local guy here, who is well known to fix such issues on any car. I planed to do so anyway, your info just confirm what i thought - its possible to fix the problem without buying new cluster.
absolutely there is no need for a new cluster, For this issue my Ferrari dealer told me, I must get a new cluster, ECU and computer I was surprised they didnt say change the engine aswell while your at it.
OK so my choice is the Dealership and pay 6 to 8 thousand bucks, or send it to Rod Drew at FAI in Costa Mesa, California and pay around $500.00. Hmmmmm, pretty easy decision. It's a well known fact that Rod Drew is an electronics genius, I saw his ad for this service on E-Bay as well. There are more and more dealerships around the world that are sending him clusters to repair. I'm told that he can't do them for $500.00 anymore because the material costs went up , so now it might be more like 7 or 8 hundred vs 7 or 8 thou at the Ferrari dealer, HA. BTW, it is Drew at FAI that you're talking about isn't it ? Theres no rule against telling, he is the only person on the west coast repairing them. He can do 360, 430 and 575 clusters I'm told, FAI 935 Sunset dr, Costa Mesa, Ca, 92627. 949-631-6373
Yep its FAI, ive dealt with both Rod and Will White. The guys are great. My dash is working perfectly.
Thanks for the info. Glad you got it fixed. BTW, their business "FAI", is that short for something? TIA
Anyone's got a red dial 430 cluster? ...Or swap with my cluster with yellow dial ?..I'll pay for the shipping if your swappin... Would'nt make sense to get new set just for the change of color so you see.... You can pm me or post here.Cheers.
Man i had the problem wich happened in Madrid at Tyre (maserati dealer ) when my 40 000km 599 Gtb hgte 9/2009 wich was comiming out from a PPI pre purchase inspection the cluster suddenly got crasy and said system error !!! The garage responsable PABLO just said it is incredible!!!! The car didnt got out we had to replace the FIAMM battery for another much reliable one VARTA And pablo had to sent the cluster to Santogal Madrid so the Flash memmory could be reprogrammed and cluster as it had forgotten how to read oil pressure etc etc car worked but lots of hazzards in cluster and warning ligths . The garage boss said it was better to buy and install a better battery and use the battery ower swictch wich is in the back inside the trunk when car should be stoped for months... Battery power instable was the reason he said ....
Rod and Will repaired my Superamerica cluster, too. Franchorchamps of America, Inc. 935 Sunset Dr Suite A Costa Mesa, CA 92627 (949) 631-6373 Rod Drew [email protected] Will White Francorchamps of America, Inc.
I'm interested to know what exactly they said about your cluster from the repair shop ? I'm having a similar problem with a 2006 F430 and it only started a few months ago. The car is on battery tender often and has been recently given a new battery. Now she kills the battery fast, the tender has issue keeping up with the re charge. Cluster lights up even when the car is off and it shuts off when I open the passenger door... lol it has the F1 transmission and to drive the car is like trying to do math in a party. You can't see what gear and it's tactics to shift to the next gear. I have a euro ford that had a similar 'freak out' when it's cluster went bad ... the transmission went haywire... similar to the ferrari... but a buddy of mine checked it out and fixed some cold solder joints and the problem was solved. I'm wondering if the ferrari cluster has a similar issue. All this beef about reprogramming... we've had ferrari techs pour over the car with no clue as to the problem aside from needing a new cluster (like everyone else says).
Mine had a factory assembly fault that Rod fixed. It was a cluster that had been replaced by the dealership that I picked up for $700. If you want info on how they fail, call Rod. Most of the repairs he did in the olden days were failures of the lighting strip. There is also a 2 MB chip in 575Ms and 360s and an 8 Mb chip in the F430 and Superamerica that can fail. That chip handles all kinds of instrument panel functions.
Hello, I own a 2008 F430, with 6K miles on it. I take the car to a Ferrari specialist for service. My dash instrument cluster might have an issue, per my shop owner. He said dealer needs to fix it. If I’m fact it’s this issue, I see there is a shop that can rebuild the cluster? I’ve attached video. Dash lights up like a Xmas tree. Car is shifting fine, but because something seems to be up with dash cluster, it’s not communicating right, so I can really drive the car. The Ferrari dealership will tell me I have to replace dash cluster, if that ends up being issue. I’m not looking to go that route, for obvious reason. Can you provide me contact info that does rebuild? Appreciate any help you can provide. Thanks QUOTE="goldfever, post: 138284427, member: 36024"]Dear Masar, ive been through ferrari. U can solve the problem with a change of the instrument cluster unit - around $6-8K. or if u want u can send it to the guys in calofirnia, they are Ferrari specialists. they do it for around $500. When i say Dash i mean the instrument Cluster unit. Which is the whole set of gauges - it comes in one piece. Youre going to have to remove the instrument cluster unit . After you send the unit. through DHL, or UPS etc.. when i sent mine, they changed a small chip inside my dash which went bad after the electrical issue. so they replaced it with a new one. Then they asked me if i remember what was the correct milage, i told them what it was and they resetted it to just that, but im not sure about the exact specifics of the whole process. The Memory of the milage is in the unit not the ECU. make sure you mention the type of your ferrari, and theyll help you out. So after they set the milage on the unit, ur good to go. So all you have to do, is send the instrument Cluster unit, and thell have a look at it. and straighten it out[/QUOTE]
better yet, just sent them the 8-pin chip, or ask them to send you a 8 pin chip. Even better: email you the 8 pin chip's content. No fedex needed. [/QUOTE]
Hi goldfever, Thanks for posting this and the contact info for FAI. I may need their help! Back in December 2021, the instrument panel on my 2007 F430 would not light-up upon turning the key. I posted in FChat and GCALLO pointed me in the right direction by checking fuses AF9 & AF15. They looked fine, however, I replaced both of them, the panel lit up and functioned normally until January of this year. Again, I replaced the fuses and panel worked just fine until this week. Drove the car on Sunday - all is well. Went to start the car on Tuesday and panel not working again (also electrical switch to open the frunk does not work, have to pull the manual cable to open the frunk to get the the fuses). I've replace the fuses as before, however, this time - NO WORK - yikes!\ Note, upon turning the key, the little red air-bag light on the instrument panel does come for a second or two in the panel (as expected) however, all other cluster function is dead. Car starts and runs normal, all other electronics works as expected (radio, head/tail lights, dome light, turn signals, windows, wiper blades, etc. Doubt this may be a cause, however, I noticed that both times panel went out it was very cold mornings (into the 30's). Not sure if there is a short somewhere in the fuse box AF9 or AF15. possible master/controller relay that needs replacement, OR as per the above, possibly bad chip in the instrument panel, maybe a fried circuit board? FYI - I did call AFI and estimated fix approximately $600-800 for potential chip issue. Circuit board replace $3500-4000. Appreciate any and all advice/feedback. Will be taking into my Indy shop tomorrow for initial diagnose. Kind regards.
Sorry, I made an error in my message so I deleted it completely. The frunk release system itself doesn't use the same fuse. I just saw the frunk child safety relay using the same fuse and jumped to the wrong conclusion. Standby.. I'll rewrite my message...
I'm not sure of the mechanical relationship between the normal electrical frunk opening system and the frunk child safety system. The child safety system allows only a partial opening of the frunk lid when the car is above (approx.) 10mph, but it shouldn't interfere with the frunk release system when the car is stationary. I assume the child safety lock actuator moves every time you go above 10mph, so it's not like it's sitting dormant all the time. A fault in the child safety system does have the potential to take out the instruments (because of the common fuse, AF15). The regular pushbutton frunk lid release system uses fuse AF14 and relay AR3, so I would check these. Note also, that despite my previous error, there is still a commonality between the instrument panel and the frunk release system. The frunk relay still needs some kind of signal from the instrument panel to function properly. That signal comes out of instrument panel plug C, pin 1. I'll have to re-read the books to find out what the instrument panel logic is. On the 430 spider, it may need the ignition to be on. The instrument panel will tell the frunk relay AR3 that the ignition is available. I'll post a diagram later showing the wiring.
