308 GTS chassis number 26921

Man, just fix it if you want to. If you don't have a lot of money up front, and the car is solid mechanically and no real rust issues, buy it, drive it, and collect the stuff you need when you can over time. These cars need to be saved. My dry sump Koenig was a debacle, but there ain't a Koenig thing on it anymore. Like a rescue shelter puppy dog, she got rescued, at great cost, but it's what I wanted to do because it was right. Just like people pay for chemo for their pooches, some people can and should rescue cars like this one.

 

The advert states: "It was imported into Australia some eight (8) years ago. It has never been on the road in Australia but has been regularly started and driven around the block."

Assuming the OP is in Australia (which the name: wb_au would imply to Me), then the car is of little use to them as anything other than a track car, because LHD cars are not road legal in Australia (hence why it's "never been on the road" in 8 years - And I can only hope that they drove it several times round the block, otherwise they will have done more harm than good!).

Other parts of the advert state:

"It presents exceptionally well" - No it doesn't!

"having been the subject of a previous comprehensive body, paint and interior restoration program" - The word "Restoration" should be replaced with: "Bastardisation" (They diddn't even manage to put the rear lights back in the right way round! )

"It is in very damn good condition with just a very few cosmetic chips in the otherwise brilliantly glossy paintwork (see pics)." - It's got more problems than just those issues, for example:

"At some stage in it's life as a show vehicle, it was fitted with scissor lift hinges to the doors. Each to their own but, if you are anything like me, you will dislike them as I do. After all, it is a Ferrari, not a Lamborghini.

Having said that, I decommissioned the action by releasing the pressure from the struts, which can easily be re-pressurized if desired." - So not only has it now got Gangsta Lambo doors, they've also been bodged to stop them working correctly!

The "relatively easy task to return to the original hinged swing doors" I suspect is going to cost a far bit more than the $300 in parts plus fitting as suggested, if you want the doors restored properly.

As for: "Everything works" - Well the doors don't work correctly, and the wheels don't work well with the cars design at all (although a set of original wheels are included in the sale apparently)

"...and there is very little to spend" - The seller seems to missed off: "Unless you want a nice looking, original car that won't have people shaking their heads, pointing and laughing and telling you that you have ruined your Ferrari by making it Gangsta! Then you'll need to spend loads of money putting this car right!"

Basically, the car's a mess!

 

Hello,

it is possible that these two car are same?
Before(my link) and after(first post from ebay)?

Before
http://www.carsforsale.com/vehicle/details/4179827

After
Ferrari 308 GTS | eBay

Thank you

 

Probably not. The BHCC car had some rather bad right front collision damage that a flipper would probably not go to the trouble to customize like on the second car.

 

Different cars

 

It seems you are correct and the rules on LHD cars in Australia have changed since I last ever looked into it in detail.

However, is it not correct that to qualify for an: "Unlimited use left hand drive exemption", the vehicle has to be completely unmodified and exactly as the manufacturer built it? :https://www.sa.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0014/23054/MR629-Left-hand-drive-fact-sheet-12.13.pdf

If that is the case then it explains why this car has never been road registered (because in it's current modified condition it can't be), and why the seller is offering to ship the car to the USA as part of the deal (because the styling and mods made to the car are far more likely to find favour with a US buyer than anywhere else in the World).

 

Don't forget the "scissor door kit".......

 

A very large percentage of those were painted under warranty. Ferrari did not use tape for the stripe.

 

Now for sale in Germany for 60000€!
Anybody looking for a real "deal"?

Ferrari 308 GT Oldtimer, Benzine, ? 60.000,- occasion in Köln

 

Hello,

I'm from Europe and bought this 308. I bring it back to original complete. I bought already all missing original parts including seats etc in Italy. Some parts like mirrors and window quarter grills I already fitt but they will removed by my body shop.

In august they will start with the body work like replacing door hings and started with the repaint. I think this car was original white but not sure at this moment. Of course I will bring it back to its original colour, white or red.
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Two thumbs up for brining this car back to original! It already looks 100% better with the OEM wheels.

 

Good lord, it's a gigantic task to bring it back to OEM specs. You will have the well deserved respect here when it's done! Don't forget to share more pictures, please!

 

It is certainly a labor of love, as the car is an US-spec GTS, which will always be second to an Euro-spec car here...

Rgds

 

Interior almost complete removed. Original colour of Floor carpet is black so this colour will Be installed.

Next week Cambelt changing.
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Does somebody know how the check what was the orig colour of the paint? I removed the doorpanels and I see Some old white paint. Also when I removed the door rubber. May Be there is always white at this points but don't know sure.
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No, usually there is no white paint here; the factory didn't use white paint. Perhaps, because the opening system/sequence of the doors was changed, that paint dates from this?
Have a look at Alberto-LP's thread about the restoration of his GTB ("the last but one carbed car...") you will find a lot of pictures of his car and the parts when he returned the car to its original color, and where this original color was to be seen.
Rgds

 

OK thank you

 

Most obvious place is in the rear fender well if you remove a fender liner. My car originally was Rosso Dino, per the salchi paint label, but later repainted Rosso Chiaro. Dunno how obvious these pics are, but the new body color is a pinkish paler version of Corsa, and Dino is just 70s, Eames chair orange. Great thing about inspecting this area is, you can gently scratch off some wheel well black paint to look at the original color, and NO ONE will ever be able to tell once you reinstall the wheel well liner.
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Another (sorry for it being sideways - iPhone upload glitch)...
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God bless you!

 

Thank you. I already found more "white" area's so no I'm sure it was original white. I repaint it to this colour. Somebody knows the colour code of white wich was used in a 1978 308?

 

** FIRST, try scratching off a bit elsewhere to be sure about the white. Ferrari used a white-ish/ochre colored primer, and you may be finding traces of it rather than original paint.

Second, per the Keith Bluemel "Bible," 75-79 cars were offered in Salchi color "Bianco Polo Park," 20-W-152. HOWEVER, I know of at least two GT4s that came with a rare special order color "Avorio Safari," 20-Y-546. Polo Park is a basic white, and Avorio is a richer creamy Ivory.

Lastly, it's excellent that you are restoring this car with such great care, but - if you're doing it for Concours purposes - I believe the rules are that you can paint it a non-original color so long as it's in a color that was available when the car was new. I'd paint it a color YOU want to drive and live with, rather than what the delivery condition was.

 

Just for kicks, here's the list of your other "period correct" options for a restoration:
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I think this one was Rosso Dino at one time.
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