Headers Replacement

Smoke test them now to see what you have. It's the only way to be sure. Then repeat annually.

Headers were covered by the emissions warranty (8 years). They could have been replaced by a dealer during that time. Do you have service records?

 

There's about a million threads about 430 headers but at the top in the sticky technical is a starting point http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/360-430-sponsored-yellow-compass-group/377467-f430-header-failure-can-happen-you.html - if you need more after that you could try 'search this forum' on headers - there are few new questions

 

Interesting Handle for a BC guy.... You must be dreaming of the Hawaiian paradise all the time but live in a climate that is on average, 15 degrees Celsius lower than the tropics!

If you bought the car from FMOV or through them, they should be able to tell you which headers you have or if you have the complete service records, you should be able to check out the campaigns as well. Otherwise, you'll have to take off the rear diffuser and look at the headers for minor differences in design. There are a number of threads on this forum that discuss this issue in detail.

I too had Mk1 headers on my 06 spider up until two years ago. No issues with them at all, although the car has not been tracked or driven very hard and still has less than 8,000 kms on it. I still have them and they have no signs of failure...

Due to the fear of a header breakdown, I had the Capristo headers and twin sound exhaust installed. While the result is a great looking exhaust canister and no more potential header failures, it can be loud! I'm a fairly low key type of person so the extra attention that the car gets when the valves are open can be too much.....this coming from a person driving a Ferrari....LOL.

With 15,000 miles, I think I would change the headers if they are not Mk2. Even if they are Mk2, I would still add the Capristo mounting bracket to alleviate any excess pressure on the headers. That's probably the best adjustment to do, at this point.

Cheers
FN

 

my car had MK2 headers on it (changed in 2008) but when I took delivery in November, dealer noticed it was cracked and replaced them. So just because you have MK2 doesnt mean you are safe!

 

How can you tell the difference between MK1 and MK2 headers

 

Check with your local dealer. They should have records of all service performed at any F dealer in their system.

 

I recall this question asked and possibly answered but I don't recall how they determined it. Do a search.

 

My opinion....You should simply have the headers smoke checked each time the car is serviced as Tim suggested...I wouldn't bother preventively replacing them. Also, since there are more than one way the headers can fail, you should purchase and install the Capristo header brackets as a preventive measure.

 

Just shout when you're ready my friend - happy to take care of you, and the car.

 

Also, if you're unsure on cold start reach your hand down in the engine bay near where the headers join and see if you can feel a blow. With mine I wasn't sure if I was hearing something or not - car was new to me and already had an aftermarket back box - but I could definitely feel the blow.

(For what it's worth, I now have Fabspeed headers and cats, and am very happy with the choice. My neighbors... Well, I don't often start it up early in the morning, and usually leave the garage door closed till the idle drops.)

 

Al,

This has been asked and answered many times. I suggest you search other threads for more information. No point in re-inventing the wheel.

Exhaust systems get hot and, so, expand. The problem with the 430 exhaust system is that it is mounted in a restrictive way which focuses the force created by the expansion into the weakest point of the system which is the header runners. When the system heats then cools dozens of times in its lifetime, this creates a fatigue loading which turns a relatively benign activity into suicide. The only difference between the MKI and MKII headers is that there is more weld on the flange-to-runner joints and all that does is move the point of failure further out on the runner and gives Ferrari, SpA, the illusion that they are doing something about the problem.

The best way to protect yourself from the problem is by installing the Capristo mount and removing the OEM mounting parts. The Fabspeed (or any aftermarket) headers will help, but without removing the restrictive mounting, you will be going down the same road as before with likely the same results.

Tom
2007 F430F1 Coupé (Izzy)

 

I have to agree, I just installed the Capristo mounts (about 2-3 hours). When you see the Micky Mouse way the OEM mounts work, you will understand. They only allow expansion of the muffler unit, not the header/cat section. These are fixed to the transmission. Actually, if Ferrari has given that mount some flex maybe this problem would never have occurred in the first place.
P.S. The OEM lower mounts were cracked and re-welded at least 3 times by prior owners.

2005 F430 Coupe F1

 

Sorry to bump a very old thread, but are these the correct mounts?

https://capristoexhaust.com/product/ferrari-430-bracket-kit-for-oem-muffler/

 

Yes those are the Capristo brackets. Easy to install yourself if you are a little bit handy.
I have them on my 2009 430 and you can see where the expansion is occurring by the marks on the bracket.


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They are for the stock muffler. Save your money though, just unbolt the hard mount brackets that come off the transmission. The flex mount bracket at the back will hold strong and also flexes with expansion.

 

Makes sense. I will be swapping stock exhaust out for an S Line anyway.

 

I have S line with capristo headers……sounds really good. (On my Scud)

 

Almost no weight on the S-line so the back bracket is more than enough. The capristo brackets are a shining example of Ferrari tax.

 

Appreciate avoiding that tax.