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La Ferrari Performance from a 488?

Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by SamBoler, Feb 8, 2016.

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  1. Liquid Assets

    Liquid Assets Formula Junior

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    Such a stupid statement... So I am insecure because I like fast modded cars... Lmao
     
  2. homesite

    homesite Formula Junior

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    Yup, it means you are insecure , funny looking, can't get women and all the cars in your signature are 1/18 scale.
     
  3. cridom60

    cridom60 Formula Junior

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    +1! who cares about warranty if you really want a 800 or 950 hp car? have a look on the "american specialist" preparation on Lambo and even ferrari: Underground racing, they are providing warranty, they are quite reliable, they have all 1/4 miles record, and they are making thousands of miles/km with their cars, and in fact, we don't care about reliability/warranty, this is toys!
     
  4. Melvok

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    Exactly :)
     
  5. DiabloTerr

    DiabloTerr Formula Junior

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    I don't know about that, if his username is real then he has one of the fastest Gallardos on the street....
     
  6. schumacher12345

    schumacher12345 Karting

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    Reading on the difference between California T and 488 gtb.

    "The 488’s 3.9-liter V8 shares its upper cylinder block architecture with other members of Ferrari’s new F154 engine family, presently installed in the California T and the Maserati Quattroporte GTS.

    Compared to the California T turbo, the 488’s gets different heads with thinner castings and more expansive cooling passages, different valve springs, different pistons, a different intake manifold with equal-length runners and different exhaust manifolds. It operates at generally higher temperatures than either the California T turbo or the 458 V8. The fuel gets hotter and cylinder pressures are higher, so pressure in the direct-injection system increases to 2,900 psi.

    Then there are the two, twin-scroll IHI turbos -- as high-tech as we've seen. The compressors are larger than those in the California T, and fabricated from a low-density titanium-aluminum alloy that reduces inertia and maximizes spool-up speed. The shafts spin sheathed in ball bearings, rather than fixed bushings like just about every other automotive turbocharger on earth. The 488 turbos also use something that Ferrari calls “abradable seals,” which look something like reeds that press around the shafts. These self adjust as they wear and maintain a tighter seal over the life of the engine. Boost pressure peaks at 35 psi, compared to 19 psi in the California T.

    110hp increase from California T required lot more than exhaust and ecu.
     
  7. homesite

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    I was kidding. He does have all those cars.
     
  8. Liquid Assets

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  9. Fabspeed Motorsport

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    ^ Lmaoo...I SEEN'T IT!!!
     
  10. Liquid Assets

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  11. 996cupracer

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    It can be done without much problem. My son has a Mitsubishi evo with almost 600hp to the wheels (over double factory). Of course the car has 22k miles on it and it is on the third motor!!!
     
  12. 996cupracer

    996cupracer Karting

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    Just change the turbo, reprogram and then schedule your rebuild. Repeat.
     
  13. howydo

    howydo Formula Junior

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    I get it but the 488 has been fortified vs the California. Psi peakes at 35psi which is very high but only momentary. I'm still confident that the car can gain +100hp with a tune alone. I guess time will tell.
     
  14. Lambooty

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    Those articles are wrong. Peak boost is 26psi on the 488:

    Ferrari massages 458 to create 488 GTB - SAE International

     
  15. Solid State

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    Excellent article that you linked! I have found that most members here are not that technical. For those folks, I found the most interesting quote from Ferrari's Chief Technical Officer to be:

    “I don’t believe that, in the next 5 to 8 years, there will be such dramatic demands that we can’t continue to offer a naturally aspirated V12, although we will have to continue to work on emissions.”

    Since this was quoted in March '15 then we can draw conclusions on the flagship power plant for the next model iteration or two. Unless, of course, its just marketing hype!
     
  16. ViperTT

    ViperTT Karting

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    The dyno graph is screwed up. The hp and torque curve should intersect at 5250 rpm and not 6700 rpm.
     
  17. BusDriver

    BusDriver Formula Junior

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    Not that simple.

    Power and torque curves intersect at 5251 rpm only if power is in hp and torque in lb ft, and both are on the same vertical axis.

    In this case, torque is in Nm and on a different vertical scale on the right. The graph is cropped too closely to see the numbers on the right hand vertical axis.

    Btw, 915 hp is hard to believe with stock turbochargers. And heat would be a serious issue.
     
  18. SamBoler

    SamBoler Karting

    Jul 28, 2005
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    Removing the cats from a GTR with race gas will bring up the horsepower to 700-750hp from 500ish (varies on year). That is the limit due to the weakness of the stock connecting rods. That engine is from 2008. 8 years of technological improvements...it seems possible.

    PP-Performance said the owner of the 488 is having a lot of fun with it.

    Can't wait for more real world results.
     

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