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PO's Clutch/Flywheel Butchering: How Bad Is This?

Discussion in '308/328' started by wildcat326, Jan 11, 2016.

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  1. BigTex

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    it would have to beat it's way out of the bell housing, but yes.....looked painful.

    I ran the Texas Mile in my car...bone stock.
    Eye opening day!!
     
  2. AZDoug

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  3. Bell Bloke

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    Do you know of any documented cases of the 308/328 flywheels letting go? I have never heard of any to date. If it's still cracked after a reface then replace it, just depends on the cracks really.
     
  4. AZDoug

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    All i can say is *I* wouldn't want to be the documented case.

    Doug
     
  5. JasonMiller

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    There is some encouragement for a do it yourselfer, "leave it for someone who has a clue"

    How about we encourage DIY folks with advice and help, I'm sure you have plenty of business.
     
  6. wildcat326

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    Well, at the end of the day, I was glad to find out my internals didn't look much worse than the next guy's, in terms of filth. In a long string of other technical failures I'm just discovering from the previous owner/shadetree mechanic, I may have over-reacted to the oily mess.

    UNFORTUNATELY (and I'm assuming my four drives for less than 30mi didn't do all this), the flywheel is NOT salvageable. I sent it to a highly recommended clutch specialist, and they reported back today that the stress cracks run too deep for reuse. Looks like I need to source a flywheel, and Ferrparts, Ricambi and Rutlands are out. Superformance has one for about $1350, and eBay has a GT4 one for $$$.

    Thoughts? I'd like to keep the stock "feel" and streetability, so I'm concerned about these aftermarket lightweight options.
     
  7. BigTex

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    Rightly so, as a lightweight one will reduce drivability in a big way, IMO.

    They are all out "right now" but the next car to burn will be a donor...
    The GT4 is the same engine, but you really want a lightly used GTS one as I previously stated
     
  8. tatcat

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    there's one on e bay for $921
     
  9. wildcat326

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    I noticed that one from mr fiat, but it looks "off," unless that's a universal file photo. Appears different from the more-expensive superformance one. Anyone know who produces them, and if one is any better than the other?
     
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    I looked at a salvage 308 several years ago that had flywheel let go. Shattered the bell housing, deck lid and fuel tank causing a fire that destroyed much of the car. The flywheel incident happened in the hands of a transporter and "the engine was only idling"
     
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    That appears to be a stock flywheel but you need to transfer the ring gear. That is is also a flywheel for an i car. The only real difference is i cars have two extra holes drilled for pickup magnets.
     
  12. AZDoug

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    Stay away from light weight flywheels.

    Their only use in a car like this is road racing, they can be a ***** on the street starting off, with a small motor like the 3x8.

    Doug
     
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    Ooh, thanks. Just noticed.
     
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    How's the progress?
     
  16. BigTex

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    I found my old flywheel and would glad to send it to you, to see if it can be repaired??
     
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    Tex -

    Thanks SO much for the offer. MNExotics found one as well and made me a nice deal. I notice he also asked me yesterday how progress is going, so I'll report that I still need to get the alternator and front header out before I clean up the engine bay and start fixing and restoring parts to put back on. The clutch probably isn't going in for a while, but it looks like I'm in good shape for when I'm ready. Thanks to everyone!
     
  18. BigTex

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    A good used one really should be about $300.

    Before we started owning "$100K cars!"
     
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    #44 MNExotics, Feb 12, 2016
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    I haven't seen one that low in price for about 7 years now and that was before the prices started moving. Not saying one couldn't be bought privately but that's a rare find at that price.

    Off subject but I am planning on a Houston trip to see family and friends later this year. If your available I would like to meet up with you while I am down there.
     
  20. maurice70

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    I hear you,,once upon a time you could trawl through Ebay and pick up cheap enough parts for a 328 with the exception of the Fog lights,they've always demanded a kings ransom..

    I, like many here have resorted to removing the jack and tool kit out of the car and substituting it with a cheaper and arguably "better" set of them both..

    Once upon a time thieves would jack the stereo out of your car,nowdays the tools,jack and emergency light are the things to steal..
     
  21. AZDoug

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    Do yourself a favor when you get the alternator out and take it to a rebuild shop and have them replace the bearings and brushes. Or do it yourself, it isn't difficult.

    As much of a PITA it is to get it in and out, do it now while its out.

    Doug
     
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    Sending it to our forum's very own in-house Bosch man, none other than one MNExotics. FWIW, I shopped this piece across the world, and his was half the cost of NOS, delivered resurfaced and balanced. I'm more than pleased with the deal.
     
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    Thank you for the kind words
     
  24. BigTex

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    Me?

    Sure!!

    We can hit some dive bars, and hear some good music!
     
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    Dive bars sound great. I'll let you know when I head down. Straight shot down i35 right
     

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