Alfa Romeo Must Return to F1 – Sweater guy | Page 2 | FerrariChat

Alfa Romeo Must Return to F1 – Sweater guy

Discussion in 'F1' started by freshmeat, Feb 12, 2016.

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, Skimlinks, and others.

  1. arizonaitalian

    arizonaitalian Two Time F1 World Champ
    Owner Silver Subscribed

    Oct 29, 2010
    20,530
    Wyoming
    I mean, heck, they were good at it 60 years ago, so how could this not work?

    Hardly much has changed I bet...

    This sounds like a huge money sink hole...although nothing but good for Ferrari as they get some cash to "subsidize" their engine development costs.
     
  2. Kiwi Nick

    Kiwi Nick Formula 3

    Jun 13, 2014
    1,325
    Durango, CO
    Full Name:
    Jeff
    #27 Kiwi Nick, Feb 15, 2016
    Last edited: Feb 15, 2016
    This raises sort of an interesting point. Is FCA going to distance itself from Ferrari? The "spin-off" reduced FCA's stake in Ferrari, but what if they further reduced their investment. FCA could be positioning Alfa Romeo to be a competitor to Ferrari. And what better way to do that than by taking Ferrari on in F1. I will admit that this is far fetched, but so was the initial offering of Ferrari stock, which some saw as FCA beginning the end of its involvement in Maranello .
     
  3. gatorgreg

    gatorgreg Formula 3
    Rossa Subscribed

    Dec 13, 2004
    1,950
    NAPLES
    Full Name:
    Greg Griffin
    #28 gatorgreg, Feb 15, 2016
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 7, 2017
    The possibility of Alfa joining F1 is an exciting thought which makes no business sense. With Chrysler, Alfa, Maser, and Lancia sucking the coffers dry I can't imagine there is any money left over for an Alfa F1 team. The Alfa sticker on the side of the F1 car will have to do for now.
    Image Unavailable, Please Login
     
  4. trumpet77

    trumpet77 Formula 3

    Jun 13, 2011
    2,181
    Great Neck, NY
    Full Name:
    Robert Nixon
    But the majority of Ferrari shareholders are still the Agnelli family, so I don't see any changes coming just because their stock is now only Ferrari!
     
  5. spirot

    spirot F1 World Champ

    Dec 12, 2005
    15,188
    Atlanta
    Full Name:
    Tom Spiro
    Yes exactly. Ferrari while floated on the exchange is still firmly in the hands of Exor and Piero Ferrari, they are just richer now than 6 months ago.

    The question would be if Exor gets into trouble and Piero Ferrari cant pony up the cash to buy out Exor, then what happens? I'm sure there is an internal put etc... but still that would be a real sea change for Ferrari, who would then be open to market demands. as it is now - Ferrari is the same, and will be tied to FCA regardless of the ownership structure.
     
  6. ypsilon

    ypsilon F1 Rookie

    May 4, 2008
    2,636
    the Netherlands
  7. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ

    Jun 3, 2006
    27,890
    +1
     
  8. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ

    Jun 3, 2006
    27,890

    If I remember rightly, Ferrari was previously owned 90% by FIAT and 10% by Piero Ferrari.

    I don't know who are the shareholders now, but I doubt that Piero Ferrari's stake has grown substantially since the firm was floated on the stock exchange.
    If anything, his percentage of shares may have decreased, although their value could have gone up.
    All this to say that I don't think the Ferrari family is a major player now.
     
  9. TheMayor

    TheMayor Ten Time F1 World Champ
    Rossa Subscribed

    Feb 11, 2008
    107,108
    Vegas baby
  10. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ

    Jun 3, 2006
    27,890

    +1
     
  11. piolaxo

    piolaxo Formula Junior

    Feb 24, 2012
    647
    Bay Area
    Full Name:
    Salvador
    Yes, as if the future of the motosport activity depends on one car. The only way I see
    Alfa Romeo it is a 'place-holder' ala Tag-Heuer.


    So the sweater guy wasn't Jean Todt? :D.
     
  12. trumpet77

    trumpet77 Formula 3

    Jun 13, 2011
    2,181
    Great Neck, NY
    Full Name:
    Robert Nixon
    Piero Ferrari still owns 10% of Ferrari, which is what his father left him. The Agnelli family (and previous FIAT owners) are still majority owners of Ferrari. For every 10 shares of FIAT stock, owners received 1 share of Ferrari, and of course the approximate value of that 1 share of FIAT meant the value of FIAT shares went down, no real gain for the average Joe stockholder.
     
  13. NEP

    NEP F1 Rookie

    Jul 19, 2010
    4,059
    On Earth
    Full Name:
    Nigel


    January 2016 Ferrari N.V. shareholders %

    FCA Shareholders - 56.5%
    Exor (Agnelli Family) - 23.5%
    Piero Ferrari - 10%
    Public Floating - 10%
     
  14. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ

    Jun 3, 2006
    27,890


    Thanks for that !!
     
  15. NEP

    NEP F1 Rookie

    Jul 19, 2010
    4,059
    On Earth
    Full Name:
    Nigel

    Your Welcome.
     
  16. Remy Zero

    Remy Zero Two Time F1 World Champ

    Apr 26, 2005
    23,478
    KL, Malaysia
    Full Name:
    MC Cool Breeze
    Just some noises, which will end up with nothing.
     

Share This Page