For sale is a nice 67 Shelby GT500. Fully restored to like new but not concours. Canadian car restored from a rusty bucket and REBODIED WITH A CALIFORNIA rustfree shell. Registered with SAAC as a REBODIED when restored. Not a number matching car. 67401F5U00464 (Ford vin unknown) Has a rebuilt 428 SCJ block with correct intake and correct BJ-BK carbs. Correct 390 head and exhaust manifolds. Has a toploader big shaft 4 speed instead of automatic. Correct original Shelby Steering wheel, under dash gauges, roll bar, shoulder harness etc. Very nice and stunning car to own as a driver. Car is located in Rouyn-Noranda, Quebec, Canada. For sale as is where is for $100K canadian by my friend. He'd like the car to go away far from him because he's selling due to family conflicts after owning it for near 25 years. Contact me for more info or pictures Claude Laforest 819-333-6882 [email protected] Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
wish i knew more about these to determine if that was a worthwhile purchase reminds me of c2 corvette shopping...... too many variable, etc
That is one beautiful car. My second favorite Shelby after the 65/66 GT350. But, how could anyone tell what this car would resale for (if its resale-able) if you bought it: - Rebodied - Non numbers matching - Canadian car - "Ford VIN unknown" What does that last one mean? Is there title on this a clean title saying 1967 Shelby or what?
To clear up the last question. From 1965 to 1967 Shelby were made by Shelby himself in Venice california as a seperate car builder. For this reason the cars were officially registered with a SHELBY unique vin number. Only Shelby american knew the Ford vin the car was built on. The ford vin was never used for any legal or registration purpose. If you drilled the 2 rivets that held the SHELBY plate vin in place you would find the Ford vin under it. From 68 Ford was now involved in all Shelby production and the FORD vin was used to identify and registered the car. This particular car is a 1967 and has allways been registered with the Shelby vin. Since the Ford vin was never used back in those years most owners and people didn't even know about the ford VIN. When cars were damaged by accident or rust and repaired if the fender appron needed replacement the Ford VIN was disgarded with the old metal piece. They only kept the Shelby vin plate and put it back in place. Shelby American Automobile club has all the records from Shelby American and they know which Ford body sits under each Shelby plate. They know what is the Ford vin that should be under the 00464 plate from Shelby but they will not reveal it for any reason. They can only confirm you have the correct one if you can supply it. This car has an unknown FORD vin for all the reasons described above. Non numbers matchings is because all the mechanical parts of this car came from different places. Non original engine, non original transmission etc etc. Like many many muscle cars today but that people don't disclose. Honnestly I think there are MANY cars for sale or on the market that have just a black or obscure past behind but sellers don't know or don't tell the truth. I'm trying to be as honnest as possible to avoid any problem with potential buyers and it makes is a little harder to sell. I know this car and ownership(title) since over 30 years and nothing as ever given any problems with ownership. This is a beauty to be proud of, believe me.
Thank you so much for the detailed and honest reply. I learned a lot. Garage space allowing, I want to own one of these someday. GLWS.
kudos to Godabitibi!!!! Transparency, integrity and honesty in selling rarely comes like this. A welcome breath of fresh air in old car world.
A little clarity on the ford Vin. With out question the original Ford Vin must be there under the shelby tag as well as the passenger side front apron. This car has been rebodied so it is missing. The rub with all these scenarios is the Ford vin. Pull a Marti report, anyone can, on the shelby vin and you will know exactly the Ford vin, The big rub.....if some one, any one has that Ford vin # they have the real shelby (assuming there bad guy's) they can build a car and order a shelby tag. Now there is two shelby's'. The original vin would have should have been saved, cut spliced, put in a box what ever to prove its legit. How do I know? I have had many shelby's, still do, and have traveled to inspect cars for buyers. Shelby's must have pedigree just like Ferrari's.
I'm sorry Sir but you can't pull a Marti report out for a Shelby vin, try if you can. Marti will ask for the Ford vin or will not issue a report without it. Marti double check with SAAC to verify your Ford vin before issuing a report. You are correct the Ford vin should be kept whenever any mods or repair or rebody is done. But we are now close to 50 years from 67 and we now have a lot of knowledge about those rare cars and thanks to SAAC for all that. Shelbys are rare and have allways been even when new and people allways liked them. Go back in say 1971 when the car was 4 yo. Here in Quebec it was allready a rusty car. Give it a hit in the front over that. Back in those years MOST owners and anthusiast were not aware of the Ford vin and didn't care about it. The registration vin number was the 674........... Shelby vin. Found some good used parts or new Ford replacement and GONE was the Ford vin. I've seen this scenario more than once. I've even here seen in my hometown a guy made that mistake with a REAL Charger Daytona. Believe me the Ford vin for 00464 will NEVER come back on another car because the shell has been destroyed MANY years ago, well over 30 years. The only place where the Ford vin is available is in SAAC files, and believe me they wont give it to anybody. I tried. BTW your last sentence is also good for me!
Claude is correct. Although it sure would be nice to know for sure that the Ford VIN was destroyed. Some here may know the story about a certain 66 GT#50 that was raced for years as the real car-until someone popped up with another GT350 sporting the Ford VIN. I guess whatever was left of the original car was never destroyed. Many years later car was reconstructed. The original, repaired shell was considered the "real" car and the re-body became a tribute. I wouldn't think this would matter much in the case of this car as it is offered for what it is, seems to be a nice car and a reasonable price and would make a cool car for the vintage rally's so popular these days.
I owned with a friend #75 Gt350 which did not have original motor but was a one owner. He raced it for years and blew up the original engine. When we resold it to a chap from California it is raced mucho at Laguna Seca. So it was more about the #75 then the motor being replaced.
Regarding rebodies, even the 1965 GT-350 that SAAC President Rick Kopec has, was rebodied decades ago, using a 1966 body. I have owned 11 original Shelby GT-350's and GT-500's over the year's. The price the car posted here is not out of line at all. All the hard to get, (and very expensive pieces) are there, and I can tell you from experience, the 67' GT-500 is a VERY HARD accelerating car! A beautiful car, and at that price, drive it, and ENJOY it! Good luck with the sale!
Wow, you just mention a car I had in mind and would never had the balls to name it publically. And you're talking about a car that is one of the most expensive Shelby in the world. Now that you done it I can speak. This car, a GT350R is one I know and personally saw after it's ''resto''. I knew this car had a rear clip when it was owned by Mr Bouffard in Quebec. I personally talked with him at his home and when I saw the car at a SAAC convention I knew it was a rebodied right away. Is it bad? No! Is it still worth a lot? Yes! Does the car have the same history behind it? YES! It's a car there is NO soul in steel. Soul and memory is in our human head. You have no idea how much relief you are giving me! Thanks a lot!
+1. You are absolutely correct. The Shelby is an easy one to fake and a hard one to prove real. Just the way it is. The seller disclosing the info. speaks towards his honesty. Have a PPI ... in Canada, check with Peter at Legendary Motor Cars : Legendary Motorcar Company - Classic and Performance Car Restoration, Sales and Trading
